Coronavirus - Doomsday

[lod001 1,344]

Looks like they are shifting gears from 'if I had to do it again, i would let them inject me with the juice' as the fatty dies of something else, to "Covid is causing all these heart issues" and "pfizer, AstroZeneca are developing a drug to help people with heart problems FROM covid".

Amazing how those heart problems are FROM covid but never happened with hundreds of millions of people who got covid over the past 2 years.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/covid-science-risk-heart-problems-194600251.html  <-- total lie.

[Casual Observer 597]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

ADE does not exist with the covid vaccines.  Available data from every country in the world shows the vaccine's effectiveness against hospitalization and death outside of a few cherry-picked weeks here and there.  One of the links you provided as "evidence" of ADE was from September 2020, and the other was a "model."  Sure, I guess it's fair to bring up the remote possibility of ADE since it has happened before, but there is absolutely zero evidence that it's happened with the covid vaccines.   If you are concerned about ADE then I guess you must be a true anti-vaxxer and not just anti covid vax.

THE INCREASES IN DEATH FROM AUGUST-DECEMBER ARE FROM COVID!  As your own data shows.  Largely amongst the unvaccinated.  Only in 2022 America, can people try to claim that covid deaths largely among the unvaccinated, are actually deaths caused by the vaccine.   I'd laugh if it didn't show how lost some people like yourself are.  "Mass Formation Psychosis" truly is real I guess.

If we're talking about 2021, Omicron is a non-factor as there were few Omicron deaths in 2021 (and I do apologize, I meant so say there were ~150k covid deaths in January/Febuary 2021, not ~250k).   The majority of covid deaths starting in the summer were from Delta, which was overall deadlier and explains why deaths got as high as they did despite the vaccines being available.  And once again, the Delta wave was also proof of the vaccine's effectiveness against death.  The older, more vaccinated population saw lower spikes in total deaths vs. 2020, whereas the younger, less vaccinated population saw higher spikes in total deaths vs. 2020.  If the vaccines were killing them, wouldn't they also kill the older people especially considering a higher % of them were vaccinated?   Not to mention, the peak in vaccine doses occured in April, and then dropped quickly thereafter, until seeing a slight bump when boosters started.  Is your theory that the vaccine all the sudden started killing people all at the same time 5+ months after they were given?

Link to Scotland having a "high death rate"?  They're recent peak in daily deaths was about 37% that of the winter peak, whereas the US's current peak is over 70% of the winter peak.  So their TOTAL deaths are low, and as a result due to their high vaccinated % they may have a high % of deaths among the vaccinated, but even still, claims of "negative effectiveness" are likely due to denominator issues - 

 

I'd agree with you that an "increase" in cancers may not be surprising.  But a 500% increase?  Yes, that's surprising.  And false.

The increases in deaths are from Covid according to the US government.  Your claim that it is the unvaxxed that are contributing to the increased deaths are your unsupported editorialization.  Maybe you are Eric Topol, though you have amnesia, who made that very same claim and got busted for it because it was false.  Again, don't put words in my mouth - I told you flat out that your vaccines don't work.  They probably are killing people through ADE or direct effects like clotting, but true and accurate reporting on something like that isn't allowed by this government or governments of the West.  Note that I posted two articles dealing with ADE and mRNA vaccines.  You disingenuously tried to extend my thought to all vaccines. 

The US population wasn't less vaccinated as 2021 wore on; it was more vaxxed.  Yet deaths increased especially in the last quarter.  Delta was over in September so that's not the answer, though the vaccines didn't seem to offer much protection to that variant, as well.  October through December of 2021 (and if you look that seems to continue through 2022) show high Covid death totals.

In summary, 2021 with vacccines available for most of the year is shaping up to be more deadly than 2020 when there weren't vaccines. The late upward trend in deaths has not been shown to be primarily amongst the unvaxxed.  There is a significant problem here that guys like you refuse to address, while beating the vaxx drum. Your not helping your cause.

[jerryskids 6,853]

1 hour ago, vomit said:

"I think what we saw is the danger of turning over public policy and public health recommendations to people who have had their careers exclusively focused on infectious diseases as opposed to public health in general,” said Kales, who also serves as a director at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-medical-prof-says-the-government-s-pandemic-response-failed-miserably-ignored-consequences-of-its-policies/

 

Word.  Too many nerds involved telling us we all needed to isolate for the rest of time.

When you are a hammer, all problems look like a nail.  Fauci is the hammer and public health looks like a Covid nail only.  

I cannot believe that we continue to mask and distance children who are essentially at no risk unless they have severe morbidities, yet we are clearly stunting their emotional and psychological growth.  The fact that our psychological experts are so quiet on this is particularly disturbing.   

[TimHauck 2,929]

13 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

The increases in deaths are from Covid according to the US government.  Your claim that it is the unvaxxed that are contributing to the increased deaths are your unsupported editorialization.  Maybe you are Eric Topol, though you have amnesia, who made that very same claim and got busted for it because it was false.  Again, don't put words in my mouth - I told you flat out that your vaccines don't work.  They probably are killing people through ADE or direct effects like clotting, but true and accurate reporting on something like that isn't allowed by this government or governments of the West.  Note that I posted two articles dealing with ADE and mRNA vaccines.  You disingenuously tried to extend my thought to all vaccines. 

The US population wasn't less vaccinated as 2021 wore on; it was more vaxxed.  Yet deaths increased especially in the last quarter.  Delta was over in September so that's not the answer, though the vaccines didn't seem to offer much protection to that variant, as well.  October through December of 2021 (and if you look that seems to continue through 2022) show high Covid death totals.

In summary, 2021 with vacccines available for most of the year is shaping up to be more deadly than 2020 when there weren't vaccines. The late upward trend in deaths has not been shown to be primarily amongst the unvaxxed.  There is a significant problem here that guys like you refuse to address, while beating the vaxx drum. Your not helping your cause.

Here is CDC data showing that no more than 20% of Covid deaths from April-December 2021 were fully vaccinated - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7104e2-H.pdf

 

In addition, the age breakdowns of 2021 Covid deaths are strong evidence of the vaccines working against death. I was comparing the age groups to each other, and then the deaths to 2020.  The older age groups (who are more vaccinated than younger age groups) saw less Covid deaths in 2021 whereas the younger age groups saw more.   And once again, as you readily admit, a significant portion of 2021’s Covid deaths occurred in January & February, with nearly all of them getting infected prior to the availability of vaccines to them.
 

Delta was the most prominent variant through early December.  So now you’re contradicting what you’ve said in other posts, because Delta hit the north later than it hit the South.  But yes a lot of the 2022 deaths especially more recently are Omicron.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

11 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

TEACHERS (on the whole)

ARE

NOT

ASKING 

FOR

REMOTE

LEARNING

Well you put it in caps, so I guess the articles I cited about schools going remote are false. Again, if the Union is asking for it, then the teachers are asking for it. Stop pretending your awful union doesn't represent teachers (on the whole).

[Utilit99 4,099]

5 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Boy talk about someone living in a utopian. That's fine if you believe all these people are truly honest in their intentions. They are not. There is more transparency in the school's than you think but you've been told it is shady business so it must be.

And I don't mind parents being involved. But too often that becomes "you need to do this" as opposed to "why are you doing this?"

Well, you are officially their babysitter. 

[Brad GLuckman 519]

7 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

That was off the top of my head...

There are plenty of examples. You people are naive if you think this stuff wouldn't open floodgates for parents to complain about stuff. Again- what about my example from Raisin in the Sun. 

The holocaust should be taught, because it's history. Redlining should be taught, because it's history. Teach history, math, science, and English.

The problem arises when the curriculum turns into indoctrination. If we just taught the basics instead of trying brainwash kids into what the schools consider 'good little citizens', we wouldn't have this problem.

[Cdub100 3,935]

45 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said:

The holocaust should be taught, because it's history. Redlining should be taught, because it's history. Teach history, math, science, and English.

The problem arises when the curriculum turns into indoctrination. If we just taught the basics instead of trying brainwash kids into what the schools consider 'good little citizens', we wouldn't have this problem.

We should teach the kids about wooden doors and swimming pools at "death camps"

[Horseman 2,493]

All but 3 states lift mask mandates just in time for Biden's free N95 masks to become available.  

[Fireballer 2,644]

Wow...let's pause  

 

[jerryskids 6,853]

43 minutes ago, Horseman said:

All but 3 states lift mask mandates just in time for Biden's free N95 masks to become available.  

Ben Shapiro thinks that the mandate lifting is part of a coordinated effort leading to Biden's SOTU and declaring his victory over Covid.  It'll be interesting to see if it plays out that way.

[Fireballer 2,644]

@Sean Mooney could you help this young lady please?  She didn't even dabble in Raisin in the Sun, she went full tilt equity grading in her first year. 

 

[Fireballer 2,644]

14 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Ben Shapiro thinks that the mandate lifting is part of a coordinated effort leading to Biden's SOTU and declaring his victory over Covid.  It'll be interesting to see if it plays out that way.

Quite ironic, isn't it?  I've been reading about Virginia's legislation that will drop mask mandates in school.  Is it just coincidence that a Dem state Senator, who represents the area that despises Younkin the most, introduces an amendment to drop mask mandates in school?  And then 10 Dem senators do somersaults across the aisle to vote for it?  All this during the 2nd largest spike in deaths in the entire pandemic?  Nah, no politics here.  Even Lester Holt called it out as politics on the Nightly News.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

Quite ironic, isn't it?  I've been reading about Virginia's legislation that will drop mask mandates in school.  Is it just coincidence that a Dem state Senator, who represents the area that despises Younkin the most, introduces an amendment to drop mask mandates in school?  And then 10 Dem senators do somersaults across the aisle to vote for it?  All this during the 2nd largest spike in deaths in the entire pandemic?  Nah, no politics here.  Even Lester Holt called it out as politics on the Nightly News.

Apparently our genius Governor in NY didnt get the memo

[lod001 1,344]

8 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Ben Shapiro thinks that the mandate lifting is part of a coordinated effort leading to Biden's SOTU and declaring his victory over Covid.  It'll be interesting to see if it plays out that way.

Well he has no actual accomplishments to talk about so it it highly likely.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

12 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said:

The holocaust should be taught, because it's history. Redlining should be taught, because it's history. Teach history, math, science, and English.

The problem arises when the curriculum turns into indoctrination. If we just taught the basics instead of trying brainwash kids into what the schools consider 'good little citizens', we wouldn't have this problem.

The problem becomes- who, and what, defines "indoctrination". @Baker Boy seems to be arguing that redlining isn't a historical fact. If that is his reality and he starts raising a fuss it affects what I am teaching. Again- I think context matters in all cases. In this scenario I mention redlining, show a video explaining it...and then move on. It serves as a historical touchstone for the book we are reading. But again- all it takes is one parent to raise a fuss over it, get a few parents to go along and it's game over. And I'm being pulled into meetings, being asked to present curriculum (which is already viewable on the website for the district), being asked to write rationalizations for what I am doing and why I am doing it. I'm confident in why I do things and that I'm not being untoward with anything. And I'm certainly not speaking strongly in favor of or against racism but people who argue often and loudly can make their perception the reality. Another sticking point is I teach in a very conservative, white-dominated district. I've heard the hard "n word" more times than I can count. So I often need to walk a fine line or be very specific in how I approach things when teaching something like Raisin in the Sun or showing my film kids Do the Right Thing.

10 hours ago, Fireballer said:

@Sean Mooney could you help this young lady please?  She didn't even dabble in Raisin in the Sun, she went full tilt equity grading in her first year. 

 

So I'd say a few things- #1.) I don't know why these are being defined as "equitable grading policies" by her. Lots of schools employ an end of marking period grading floor to ensure students keep trying to pass the school year without giving up. It has many detractors and affects kids of all racial groups. Grade floors are one of those things though that probably sounds better in theory than actual execution. But I will also point out- grade floors exist because of screaming parents. 

#2.) Late work should always carry a penalty. 

#3.) How does the person posting that Tweet know that all these policies are affecting people of color? I mean I see the BLM matters sign and all that but that might just be nothing more than a sign and not indicative that she is teaching people of different races. (Although this is where I would argue regardless of what you believe don't post it on social media accounts. Keep that to yourself)

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

8 hours ago, Fireballer said:

@Sean Mooney could you help this young lady please?  She didn't even dabble in Raisin in the Sun, she went full tilt equity grading in her first year. 

 

.  Passing black kids without teaching them is now equity. 

[TimHauck 2,929]

11 hours ago, Horseman said:

All but 3 states lift mask mandates just in time for Biden's free N95 masks to become available.  

I don't think these 2 things are really contradictory.  A main purpose of mask mandates IMO was because of the belief (likely true) that cloth masks in particular would at least protect other people from the wearer.   If N95's are more available, and they may actually offer some protection to the wearer, then you don't need "everyone" wearing some form of mask.

[Horseman 2,493]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I don't think these 2 things are really contradictory.  A main purpose of mask mandates IMO was because of the belief (likely true) that cloth masks in particular would at least protect other people from the wearer.   If N95's are more available, and they may actually offer some protection to the wearer, then you don't need "everyone" wearing some form of mask.

You'll be one of those guys.  

I'm collecting as many free masks as I can, for when I really need them, cutting tile etc.  I'm never going to have to buy my own masks again.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

The problem becomes- who, and what, defines "indoctrination". @Baker Boy seems to be arguing that redlining isn't a historical fact. If that is his reality and he starts raising a fuss it affects what I am teaching. Again- I think context matters in all cases. In this scenario I mention redlining, show a video explaining it...and then move on. It serves as a historical touchstone for the book we are reading. But again- all it takes is one parent to raise a fuss over it, get a few parents to go along and it's game over. And I'm being pulled into meetings, being asked to present curriculum (which is already viewable on the website for the district), being asked to write rationalizations for what I am doing and why I am doing it. I'm confident in why I do things and that I'm not being untoward with anything. And I'm certainly not speaking strongly in favor of or against racism but people who argue often and loudly can make their perception the reality. Another sticking point is I teach in a very conservative, white-dominated district. I've heard the hard "n word" more times than I can count. So I often need to walk a fine line or be very specific in how I approach things when teaching something like Raisin in the Sun or showing my film kids Do the Right Thing.

So I'd say a few things- #1.) I don't know why these are being defined as "equitable grading policies" by her. Lots of schools employ an end of marking period grading floor to ensure students keep trying to pass the school year without giving up. It has many detractors and affects kids of all racial groups. Grade floors are one of those things though that probably sounds better in theory than actual execution. But I will also point out- grade floors exist because of screaming parents. 

#2.) Late work should always carry a penalty. 

#3.) How does the person posting that Tweet know that all these policies are affecting people of color? I mean I see the BLM matters sign and all that but that might just be nothing more than a sign and not indicative that she is teaching people of different races. (Although this is where I would argue regardless of what you believe don't post it on social media accounts. Keep that to yourself)

 

Holy Fock. 

[TimHauck 2,929]

34 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You'll be one of those guys.  

I'm collecting as many free masks as I can, for when I really need them, cutting tile etc.  I'm never going to have to buy my own masks again.  

One of what guys?  I thought you all don't care if other people want to wear a mask or not?

[Horseman 2,493]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

One of what guys?  I thought you all don't care if other people want to wear a mask or not?

I don't, I just think it funny diaper face.

[Casual Observer 597]

15 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Here is CDC data showing that no more than 20% of Covid deaths from April-December 2021 were fully vaccinated - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/pdfs/mm7104e2-H.pdf

 

In addition, the age breakdowns of 2021 Covid deaths are strong evidence of the vaccines working against death. I was comparing the age groups to each other, and then the deaths to 2020.  The older age groups (who are more vaccinated than younger age groups) saw less Covid deaths in 2021 whereas the younger age groups saw more.   And once again, as you readily admit, a significant portion of 2021’s Covid deaths occurred in January & February, with nearly all of them getting infected prior to the availability of vaccines to them.
 

Delta was the most prominent variant through early December.  So now you’re contradicting what you’ve said in other posts, because Delta hit the north later than it hit the South.  But yes a lot of the 2022 deaths especially more recently are Omicron.

I'm not contradicting anything.  Delta peaked in mid-September.  You and probably the government are trying to stretch that out to December?  That's a joke and an obvious fudging of dates.  October, November and December of 2021 something else was going on.  You attribute deaths to Omicron while still claiming the vaccines carried efficacy against it (as well as the government which shows lower rates for vaxxed into December).  However, that's a known false as most famously reported by CEO Bourla of Pfizer.  Even the WHO admitted that.  Something else is going here.  I've seen the government charts you cited and I don't buy the vaxx v unvaxxed breakdowns at all.  Take the State of Texas.  Last November Texas reported 1,314,337 Covid cases among the unvaccinated and 46,321 amongst the fully-vaccinated.  They go on to report 24,517 of the unvaccinated dying while 2,200 of the vaccinated died.  Those rates are 2% v 9% (CFR rates) for unvaxxed to vaxxed.  Those aren't shown on gov't. graphs.  Something else is going on here, which you are not admitting.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Holy Fock. 

I know...all those words and you not knowing how to read

[Utilit99 4,099]

34 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I know...all those words and you not knowing how to read

I think he was referring to the word salad you keep writing. 

[TimHauck 2,929]

1 hour ago, Casual Observer said:

I'm not contradicting anything.  Delta peaked in mid-September.  You and probably the government are trying to stretch that out to December?  That's a joke and an obvious fudging of dates.  October, November and December of 2021 something else was going on.  You attribute deaths to Omicron while still claiming the vaccines carried efficacy against it (as well as the government which shows lower rates for vaxxed into December).  However, that's a known false as most famously reported by CEO Bourla of Pfizer.  Even the WHO admitted that.  Something else is going here.  I've seen the government charts you cited and I don't buy the vaxx v unvaxxed breakdowns at all.  Take the State of Texas.  Last November Texas reported 1,314,337 Covid cases among the unvaccinated and 46,321 amongst the fully-vaccinated.  They go on to report 24,517 of the unvaccinated dying while 2,200 of the vaccinated died.  Those rates are 2% v 9% (CFR rates) for unvaxxed to vaxxed.  Those aren't shown on gov't. graphs.  Something else is going on here, which you are not admitting.

Delta PEAKED in mid-September.   But it was the dominant variant until December and accounted for over 90% of cases through 12/11- https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

The reason Delta peaked in September was due to the Southern states where it spread first (as there is some seasonality to covid).   It then hit the northeast in the fall where cases had already started rising prior to December,  but then exploded once Omicron took over.
 

2,200 vaccinated deaths vs 24,517 unvaccinated deaths are further proof of the vaccine's effectiveness against death.   But reported cases mean nothing, as many cases are not reported, especially if the symptoms are minor as would be more likely to be the case among the vaccinated.    Unless now you agree the vaccine is also effective against cases? 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

17 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

2,200 vaccinated deaths vs 24,517 unvaccinated deaths are further proof of the vaccine's effectiveness against death.   But reported cases mean nothing, as many cases are not reported, especially if the symptoms are minor as would be more likely to be the case among the vaccinated.    Unless now you agree the vaccine is also effective against cases? 

With no knowledge of both reported and unreported cases, all other data is flawed. 

[TimHauck 2,929]

7 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

With no knowledge of both reported and unreported cases, all other data is flawed. 

Case data is flawed, yes.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Not sure if mentioned here but california's statewide indoor mask mandate ends on Feb 15th.  County and city mandates are unaffected.  

[BudBro 183]

19 hours ago, Casual Observer said:

 I told you flat out that your vaccines don't work.  They probably are killing people through ADE or direct effects like clotting, but true and accurate reporting on something like that isn't allowed by this government or governments of the West.  Note that I posted two articles dealing with ADE and mRNA vaccines. 

"In ADE, antibodies from a previous infection become non-neutralizing due to mutations in the virus’s proteins. These non-neutralizing antibodies then act as trojan horses, allowing live, active virus to be pulled into macrophages through their Fc receptor pathways, allowing the virus to infect immune cells that it would not have been able to infect before. This has been known to happen with Dengue Fever; when someone gets sick with Dengue, recovers, and then contracts a different strain, they can get very, very ill. "  https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/damn-you-hell-you-will-not-destroy-america-here-spartacus-covid-letter-thats-gone-viral

 

I haven't seen anyone identify covid as an ADE or not.  But, I'm going to suggest it isn't.  And only using the piece of information linked below from the NIH which showed that people who had been exposed to sars-cov-1 did show antibodies when exposed 17 years later to sars-cov-2.

 

Quote

 

SARS-CoV-2 belongs to a large family of coronaviruses, six of which were previously known to infect humans. Four of them are responsible for the common cold. The other two are more dangerous: SARS-CoV-1, the virus responsible for the outbreak of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), which ended in 2004; and MERS-CoV, the virus that causes Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), first identified in Saudi Arabia in 2012.

All six previously known coronaviruses spark production of both antibodies and memory T cells. In addition, studies of immunity to SARS-CoV-1 have shown that T cells stick around for many years longer than acquired antibodies. So, Bertoletti’s team set out to gain a better understanding of T cell immunity against the novel coronavirus.

The researchers gathered blood samples from 36 people who’d recently recovered from mild to severe COVID-19. They focused their attention on T cells (including CD4 helper and CD8 cytotoxic, both of which can function as memory T cells). They identified T cells that respond to the SARS-CoV-2 nucleocapsid, which is a structural protein inside the virus. They also detected T cell responses to two non-structural proteins that SARS-CoV-2 needs to make additional copies of its genome and spread. The team found that all those recently recovered from COVID-19 produced T cells that recognize multiple parts of SARS-CoV-2.

Next, they looked at blood samples from 23 people who’d survived SARS. Their studies showed that those individuals still had lasting memory T cells today, 17 years after the outbreak. Those memory T cells, acquired in response to SARS-CoV-1, also recognized parts of SARS-CoV-2.

Finally, Bertoletti’s team looked for such T cells in blood samples from 37 healthy individuals with no history of either COVID-19 or SARS. To their surprise, more than half had T cells that recognize one or more of the SARS-CoV-2 proteins under study here. It’s still not clear if this acquired immunity stems from previous infection with coronaviruses that cause the common cold or perhaps from exposure to other as-yet unknown coronaviruses.

https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2020/07/28/immune-t-cells-may-offer-lasting-protection-against-covid-19/

 

 

[BudBro 183]

On 2/8/2022 at 5:25 PM, TimHauck said:

 Take off the tinfoil hat.

It has protected me for years now.  The tin foil hatters have been proven right on every front, to include this covid scheme to defraud the treasury and prop up failing big pharma.  This is nothing more than lining the pockets of the same grifters who brought us the global warming hoax.  Add the education racket and you have the 3-fer of the greatest ponzis ever perpetrated.  We can't even count how many trillions of American tax dollars have been stolen suffering these thieves.

[Casual Observer 597]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Delta PEAKED in mid-September.   But it was the dominant variant until December and accounted for over 90% of cases through 12/11- https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions

The reason Delta peaked in September was due to the Southern states where it spread first (as there is some seasonality to covid).   It then hit the northeast in the fall where cases had already started rising prior to December,  but then exploded once Omicron took over.
 

2,200 vaccinated deaths vs 24,517 unvaccinated deaths are further proof of the vaccine's effectiveness against death.   But reported cases mean nothing, as many cases are not reported, especially if the symptoms are minor as would be more likely to be the case among the vaccinated.    Unless now you agree the vaccine is also effective against cases? 

I don't think so.  The rates, which were being shown on the graphs you linked to show an advantage toward vaxxed.  In this instance, the data showed an advantage toward vaxxed, despite the raw number being larger, there was a much larger pool of unvaxxed.

[Casual Observer 597]

45 minutes ago, BudBro said:

"In ADE, antibodies from a previous infection become non-neutralizing due to mutations in the virus’s proteins. These non-neutralizing antibodies then act as trojan horses, allowing live, active virus to be pulled into macrophages through their Fc receptor pathways, allowing the virus to infect immune cells that it would not have been able to infect before. This has been known to happen with Dengue Fever; when someone gets sick with Dengue, recovers, and then contracts a different strain, they can get very, very ill. "  https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/damn-you-hell-you-will-not-destroy-america-here-spartacus-covid-letter-thats-gone-viral

 

I haven't seen anyone identify covid as an ADE or not.  But, I'm going to suggest it isn't.  And only using the piece of information linked below from the NIH which showed that people who had been exposed to sars-cov-1 did show antibodies when exposed 17 years later to sars-cov-2.

 

 

It's not Covid, as in the virus itself; it's the mRNA vaccine that creates ADE.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Case data is flawed, yes.

And without proper case data, what exactly do you have?  Numbers of deaths and numbers of vaxxed.  You don't even know the number of unvaxxed. 

[Fireballer 2,644]

These white, elitist libtards in Loudoun VA just can't get out of their own way.  The president of Loudoun Friends of Mental Health hates supportive parents and their kids.

 

[DonS 3,292]

8 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

These white, elitist libtards in Loudoun VA just can't get out of their own way.  The president of Loudoun Friends of Mental Health hates supportive parents and their kids.

 

JFC that lady is homely.  Most likely a childless bitter hag.

[KSB2424 3,148]

What’s the latest on the genesis of Covid? Any breaking news?  Any NATO hearings?  Any U.S. Senate hearings doing root cause analysis of how Covid derived and spread worldwide, and shut the world down by a virus?  
 

WHY IS THAT NOT THE #1 INVESTIGATIVE NEWS STORY IN THE WORLD?

[Fireballer 2,644]

2 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

WHY IS THAT NOT THE #1 INVESTIGATIVE NEWS STORY IN THE WORLD?

Because the people responsible for investigating this are lying to us about a variety of other things and doing so to their own advantage. They can't expose the hustle. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

We will all be dead by November/December. I feel sure.

 

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On 2/9/2022 at 3:34 PM, Fireballer said:

Don't forget that the epicenter for the "parents attack on education" was Loudoun Va in early 2021.  Parents starting asking too many questions about what they were seeing during virtual learning and Covid restrictions.  In response, a private Facebook group, that school administrators were part of, created a "hit list" of parents that were being too nosy. The intent of the list was future harassment and doxxing.

Now, in many parts of the country, parents are peeling back the layers of the onion and seeing what public schools are all about. Now people are big mad.  In Ohio, the DOE was mad enough to illegally remove public comment during the proposed installation of the 1619 project.  In Arizona, they were mad enough to keep a dossier of info on parents and students that spoke out at school board meetings. Again, in Loudoun, they were mad enough to ask for jail time for the Dad charged with disorderly conduct when he called bullsh!t on the Suerintendent for lying about sexual assault.  The NSBA was mad enough to get the White House to get Garland to call parents terrorists and sic the FBI on them.  This crap is happening in lots of places.  So spare me the "transparency" routine.  The message is clear,  "don't fuk with schools".

He ain’t wrong.