cmh6476 781 Posted August 18, 2020 https://sports.yahoo.com/rangers-unhappy-after-fernando-tatis-jr-swings-on-30-count-and-hits-grand-slam-with-padres-already-up-7-120511772.html Rangers unhappy after Fernando Tatis Jr. swings on 3-0 count and hits grand slam with Padres already up 7 The Texas Rangers think Fernando Tatis Jr. should have been looking for a walk instead of a grand slam in the eighth inning Monday night. Tatis Jr. came to the plate in the eighth with his San Diego Padres up 10-3 on the Rangers. After working to a 3-0 count on Juan Nicasio, Tatis swung on the fourth pitch and clobbered the baseball over the right-center wall for a 14-3 Padres lead. The Rangers were apparently unhappy that they gave up a grand slam. And unhappy that the 21-year-old Tatis had the nerve to swing in that count with his team up seven. It was his 11th homer of the season. “I think there's a lot of unwritten rules that are constantly being challenged in today's game,” Rangers manager Chris Woodward said at his news conference after the game. “Yeah, I didn't like it, personally. You're up by seven in the eighth inning — it's typically not a good time to swing 3-0. It's kind of the way we were all raised in the game. But, like I said, the norms are being challenged on a daily basis, so just because I don't like it doesn't mean it's not right. I don't think we liked it as a group.” That dislike was clear after Tatis’ home run. Nicasio was replaced by Ian Gibaut and Gibaut immediately threw a pitch behind Manny Machado. Tatis missed a take sign? Tatis was apparently told that he shouldn’t swing on that pitch from Nicasio, but the Rangers seem to believe that Tatis didn’t need a take sign to not swing. “I've been in this game since I was a kid, and I know a lot of unwritten rules,” Tatis said. “But this time, I didn't.” Padres manager Jayce Tingler after the game said that because the Padres were up seven runs at the time, Tatis did in fact receive a sign to take that pitch. “Just to make sure we get the signs 3-0 in that game,” Tingler said after the game about what he told Tatis. “Just to make sure and he’s young, a free spirit and focused and all those things and that’s the last thing we’ll ever take away. It’s a learning opportunity and that’s it and he’ll grow from it.” Tatis said that Tingler told him the take sign was on after he got back to the dugout. “He told me that I was given the sign to take a pitch and I told him right away that was on me, I didn’t look in,” Tatis said. The grand slam gave Tatis sole possession of the MLB home run lead after the Angels’ Mike Trout hit his 10th home run earlier in the evening. Tatis, who knocked in seven runs Monday night, also has the MLB lead with 28 RBI. Though the Rangers would certainly argue with three of those. They would have much rather preferred that Tatis had taken a walk to drive a run in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted August 18, 2020 So, both managers agreed that he shouldn’t have swung at the pitch. He did. The next guy got thrown behind. Kid admitted he missed the sign. No head hunting, no bench clearing brawl. Seems like it was handled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 18, 2020 If he grounded into a double play, sudden the "unwritten rule" disappears, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,320 Posted August 18, 2020 Tatis is a putz in this case... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,028 Posted August 18, 2020 Texas has become the capital of sports dooshbaggery in the country, taking the title from Boston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Texas has become the capital of sports dooshbaggery in the country, taking the title from Boston. You better take that back!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,128 Posted August 18, 2020 Doesn't baseball have a process to just walk a guy nowadays? Didn't they implement that to speed up the game? If the Rangers wanted to walk him they could have taken advantage of that rule. If they believed he would just take the pitch because it's an "unwritten" rule then that just gives them a free strike. Fock 'em. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,837 Posted August 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Doesn't baseball have a process to just walk a guy nowadays? Didn't they implement that to speed up the game? If the Rangers wanted to walk him they could have taken advantage of that rule. If they believed he would just take the pitch because it's an "unwritten" rule then that just gives them a free strike. Fock 'em. Bases were loaded. We need more animosity in sports not less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,320 Posted August 18, 2020 Plus what BS that he might have missed a take sign... Anyone that plays the game knows you don't usually swing 3-0 especially up seven runs late in the game... I have absolutely no issue if Tatis gets one thrown at him today... He should and then things continue on as normal... Throwing at Machado was an empty gesture... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,592 Posted August 18, 2020 Baseball is really weird. Thought there was no crying in baseball? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,128 Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, cyclone24 said: Bases were loaded. We need more animosity in sports not less. And? They seem upset he didn't take a pitch hoping to get walked. If they wanted to walk him, walk him. Otherwise, take your medicine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,592 Posted August 18, 2020 I am missing the outrage. Why is this wrong? Someone enlighten me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,766 Posted August 18, 2020 Seems like taking a walk would be the percentage play to maximize your runs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,128 Posted August 18, 2020 Just now, listen2me 23 said: I am missing the outrage. Why is this wrong? Someone enlighten me. It's an "unwritten" rule!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,128 Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, jonmx said: Seems like taking a walk would be the percentage play to maximize your runs. That's kind of the irony here. They're all p*ssed off that he didn't take the pitch given they were leading 10-3, but if it were 3-3 he probably takes hoping for the walk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,592 Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Strike said: It's an "unwritten" rule!!!! But why? I understand the team giving him the sign to get the walk would be urked he didnt take the sign and not swinging is the better play. But why is the opposing team upset? Confused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 1,037 Posted August 18, 2020 3-0 you either hung a curve or piped it. Try not doing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,837 Posted August 18, 2020 Guys...he should have struck himself out so the other team wouldn't have hurt feelings. Here's an idea texas...dont get down by 7 runs in the first place, get the bases loaded..again...and then be down 3-0 in the count. Suck less Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,914 Posted August 18, 2020 I must be missing something. If the bases are loaded and the count is 3-0, you're supposed to take a strike? Why? Get the count to 3-1 and then have to decide whether to swing or take again? Did the pitcher purposely throw 3 straight balls as well? Is that an unwritten rule in a blowout game when the bases are loaded? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,028 Posted August 18, 2020 Imagine Bellicheck was a manager? Half these fags would be in the dugout crying like Tanner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,687 Posted August 18, 2020 Padres bullpen has been horribe ERA 7.27 Stammen 8.31 Pagan 5.87 Johnson 8.10 Perdomo 11.05 Guerra 7.94 Patino 9.00 Hill 12.46 Yates rangers came back from down 7 last week most exciting player in baseball LET HIM PLAY! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,215 Posted August 18, 2020 51 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: If he grounded into a double play, sudden the "unwritten rule" disappears, Not really. It doesn't disappear, but it's viewed as Karma. You got what you deserved. They still might have thrown at him the next inning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 712 Posted August 18, 2020 Sort of Ironic the Rangers have the record for most runs in a game when they hung 30 on the Orioles years ago. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted August 18, 2020 Everybody knows you’re supposed to look for a green light in that situation. Tatis is lying But people are only crying because he hit the slam. If he’d have whiffed or hit a dribbler, nobody would be talking about it. And throwing at hitters as retribution for failure to follow unwritten rules needs to stop. Players can get seriously injured with that sh!t You want revenge? Strike him out next time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,246 Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: So, both managers agreed that he shouldn’t have swung at the pitch. He did. The next guy got thrown behind. Kid admitted he missed the sign. No head hunting, no bench clearing brawl. Seems like it was handled. Now that is a temper tantrum by a multi millionaire spoiled POS. Should have tried to get the previous guy out, loser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted August 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, vuduchile said: Everybody knows you’re supposed to look for a green light in that situation. Tatis is lying But people are only crying because he hit the slam. If he’d have whiffed or hit a dribbler, nobody would be talking about it. And throwing at hitters as retribution for failure to follow unwritten rules needs to stop. Players can get seriously injured with that sh!t You want revenge? Strike him out next time He threw at his ass. That is how you do it. Just don't throw at his head. 16 minutes ago, lod001 said: Now that is a temper tantrum by a multi millionaire spoiled POS. Should have tried to get the previous guy out, loser. Was a different pitcher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,177 Posted August 18, 2020 Get the batter out or STFU. If the game game is in doubt, he should do what he thinks is best. If the game is not in doubt, the other team is free to leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,320 Posted August 18, 2020 This is so wrong... https://www.mlb.com/news/ian-gibaut-chris-woodward-suspended Texas Rangers pitcher Ian Gibaut has received a three-game suspension for his actions in the top of the eighth inning of Monday night’s game against the San Diego Padres at Globe Life Field in Arlington. Gibaut intentionally threw a pitch at Manny Machado of the Padres immediately following the grand slam by Fernando Tatis Jr. Chris Young, Major League Baseball’s Senior Vice President of Baseball Operations, made the announcement. In addition, Rangers manager Chris Woodward has received a one-game suspension as a result of Gibaut’s actions. Both Gibaut and Woodward received undisclosed fines as part of the discipline. Gibaut’s suspension had been scheduled to begin today, when the Rangers continue to host the Padres. However, Gibaut has elected to appeal. Thus, the discipline will be held in abeyance until the process is complete. Woodward will serve his suspension today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted August 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, posty said: This is so wrong... https://www.mlb.com/news/ian-gibaut-chris-woodward-suspended Texas Rangers pitcher Ian Gibaut has received a three-game suspension for his actions in the top of the eighth inning of Monday night’s game against the San Diego Padres at Globe Life Field in Arlington. Gibaut intentionally threw a pitch at Manny Machado of the Padres immediately following the grand slam by Fernando Tatis Jr. Chris Young, Major League Baseball’s Senior Vice President of Baseball Operations, made the announcement. In addition, Rangers manager Chris Woodward has received a one-game suspension as a result of Gibaut’s actions. Both Gibaut and Woodward received undisclosed fines as part of the discipline. Gibaut’s suspension had been scheduled to begin today, when the Rangers continue to host the Padres. However, Gibaut has elected to appeal. Thus, the discipline will be held in abeyance until the process is complete. Woodward will serve his suspension today. I have absolutely no issue with today's suspension...Do your time and then things continue on as normal... Throwing at Machado was wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 781 Posted August 18, 2020 ok now they have a reason to cry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 651 Posted August 18, 2020 if a 7 run lead is so insurmountable, institute a mercy rule.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,320 Posted August 18, 2020 20 minutes ago, vuduchile said: I have absolutely no issue with today's suspension...Do your time and then things continue on as normal... Throwing at Machado was wrong. There wasn't even a warning issued during the game after the umpires talked about it... No issue throwing at Machado (didn't head hunt like some pitchers do), but I would have waited to throw at Tatis later... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,320 Posted August 18, 2020 4 hours ago, patweisers44 said: Sort of Ironic the Rangers have the record for most runs in a game when they hung 30 on the Orioles years ago. Big difference was that they weren't swinging at 3-0 pitches in a rout... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 4,128 Posted August 18, 2020 19 minutes ago, posty said: Big difference was that they weren't swinging at 3-0 pitches in a rout... To quote a wise man: Quote if a 7 run lead is so insurmountable, institute a mercy rule.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,993 Posted August 18, 2020 I'm a Rangers fan and don't get it. In this day and age of the juiced ball, no lead is safe. Our crying fans need to STFU already. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted August 18, 2020 If you don’t want them slapping the sh1t out of the ball don’t throw them a softball. Plus, in baseball you never know if the other team will have a late rally. Every coach I’ve ever played for said if they leave it over the plate like that you smash it. Plus, you wouldn’t want to swing on a 3-0 count when the game is close but when you have a comfortable lead like that and they hang it over the plate the go ahead and swing away Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,711 Posted August 18, 2020 So confused, why are you supposed to take the walk with the bases loaded? Makes no sense, they should be trying to get him out, not give up another run on a walk. Wtf would he get a take sign? So, they are upset they gave up 4 runs instead of 1?.... I can't believe this is a story.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 13,028 Posted August 18, 2020 Don’t go to 3-0. “I can’t pitch, so take it easy on me and let me have this free strike”. GTFO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayJay1971 238 Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Cruzer said: I'm a Rangers fan and don't get it. In this day and age of the juiced ball, no lead is safe. Our crying fans need to STFU already. You need to talk with Posty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 829 Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Reality said: So confused, why are you supposed to take the walk with the bases loaded? Makes no sense, they should be trying to get him out, not give up another run on a walk. Wtf would he get a take sign? So, they are upset they gave up 4 runs instead of 1?.... I can't believe this is a story.. Baseball. Slow, boring, and now incredibly stupid as well. It's like the in-field-fly rule. "Wait, there's a fundamental flaw with our boring game! If there's an in-field-fly ball with a man on base, they'll intentionally drop it and make a double play. God our game is dumb." "No problem, we'll institute a totally arbitrary rule that they're automatically out, even if they don't catch it." "But that goes against the basic fundamentals of the game.?. Ah screw it, anyone who can sit for hours watching this boring game won't care." Baseball Share this post Link to post Share on other sites