Afghanistan

[BeenHereBefore 1,537]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

MSNBC called it “Biden’s disaster” or something yesterday 

MSM was turning on Biden tonight and very surprising. Wonder what there agenda is now ?

[KSB2424 3,148]

1 minute ago, BeenHereBefore said:

MSM was turning on Biden tonight and very surprising. Wonder what there agenda is now ?

Queen Kamala

[BeenHereBefore 1,537]

Just now, KSB2424 said:

Queen Kamala

yep has to be!

[KSB2424 3,148]

9 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!

We have a winner.

The US  military can only prevent more turds from being splattered everywhere in the global toilets; they can't clean up the sh*t and the world would be horrified at what would take place if they attempted to unclog the toilet.

Snoop Dog said it best.  "Hit it then Quit it, Playa"

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

4 hours ago, fandandy said:

I hope this all turns out as horribly as possible and once and for all Americans realize just how incompetent our government really is.

And places such as Taiwan are paying attention.  Cut bait Taiwan.  America is a failed concept.

Taiwan has known that for a long time. The only reason they live on Taiwan now is because we abandoned them after WWII and the soviets didn't abandon their ally.

Japan knows it too. That's why they amended the constitution we wrote for them too beef up their military. 

4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

This sh!t right here is wholly a separate issue on top of the troop withdrawal and who planned it and when.  This is worse than Benghazi on so many levels.  Under no fuking circumstances, should we allow American citizens to navigate their trip to the airport through a gauntlet of murderous haters of American.  Blood will be on Joe's hands.

Yeah, this is inexcusable. The cornerstone of American policy should always be “fock with Americans at your peril.”

3 hours ago, DonS said:

Aside from govt state department folks and military contractors (who probably left before US troops) what US citizens would choose to be in that focking sh1t hole?  

Missionaries. Teachers for those new schools we built. Construction contractors building roads over there.

Probably a bunch of people representing companies looking to make a buck over there.

That number is shocking though. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

20 minutes ago, BeenHereBefore said:

MSM was turning on Biden tonight and very surprising. Wonder what there agenda is now ?

I want you to remember this the next time one of you loser starts whining about how the media gives Biden the free pass.

 

Wont be too damn surprised if they give cameltoe a free pass though.

[BeenHereBefore 1,537]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

I want you to remember this the next time one of you loser starts whining about how the media gives Biden the free pass.

 

Wont be too damn surprised if they give cameltoe a free pass though.

Cheers and have another one!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

I want you to remember this the next time one of you loser starts whining about how the media gives Biden the free pass.

 

Wont be too damn surprised if they give cameltoe a free pass though.

Yeah, they went hard on him during the election. Eye roll. 

[Masshole 642]

2 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

So here's the deal.  Granted *eventually* the Taliban may have taken back over that region regardless of any plan once the troops withdrew.  HOWEVER how are we there for 20 years and leave people behind?  How do we just leave all that artillery for the bad guys?  You have to have a viable exit strategy that ensures everyone's safety and we bring all of our military assets home.   That is literally the basic stuff that WAS doable.

Complete disaster no matter how you spin it.  

The speed and degree of this debacle would reinforce this point.    Even if you say "it's not as bad as it looks", even granting that (which I don't) - it's a monumental failure to be so surprised by this.    If you see even 50% of this coming, you would have had to change the method, means, and possibly the timing of the exit.    This looks like (and probably is) a complete cluster fuk of poor planning and anticipation.   

I don't know if a Trump admin would have done better.   That will always be a hypothetical.    But I do know for sure that the current admin fuk'd this up royally.     We were down to 3500 and hadn't had a US military KIA since 2/2020.   Somehow things were somewhat "safe" to be there as a US citizen/ally.     There had to have been a way to engineer this exit better.    Seeing this coming to some degree should have been step 1. . .  

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

6 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

I want you to remember this the next time one of you loser starts whining about how the media gives Biden the free pass.

 

Wont be too damn surprised if they give cameltoe a free pass though.

Think it would go down the same way if Trump was still in the big chair?

They'd be howling for his blood, and rightly so.

[avoiding injuries 1,595]

2 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Think it would go down the same way if Trump was still in the big chair?

They'd be howling for his blood, and rightly so.

It wouldn’t have happened this way under Trump. There was an actual plan that was to be implemented if and when they ever made the decision to leave. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Frustrates the s*** out of me that some if us knew this was a manipulation from day one. Every time Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld mention 911, they mentioned Iraq or Afghanistan. Even though they had nothing to do with it.  

 

Amazing how easily they co-opted the Dixie Chicks haters rage and frustration. And I remember those days vividly on this board.

 

But, I told you so doesn't mean s***. And unfortunately those f****** didn't end up in the Hague. I can only hope they end up in hell.

 

Remember how Cheney sold out a CIA agent and therefore everyone who was  affiliated with  her because he was so mad that her husband said yellow cake uranium was b*******?  You know how many people died because of that? That we'll never know? Oya, that story doesnt get told anymore.

 

Oh, and todays story that the Taliban ended up with all of our weaponry? Same f****** thing happened with AQ in Iraq. 

 

Jesus Fock. 

 

Remember how many of you losers swore that they did find weapons of mass destruction? Because Fox told you they did? Except they were the SAME weapons of mass destruction from 20 years before? F****** own it you f****** cowards.

 

...or change your alias and whine about Obummers gluten free birthday cake. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

6 minutes ago, Masshole said:

The speed and degree of this debacle would reinforce this point.    Even if you say "it's not as bad as it looks", even granting that (which I don't) - it's a monumental failure to be so surprised by this.    If you see even 50% of this coming, you would have had to change the method, means, and possibly the timing of the exit.    This looks like (and probably is) a complete cluster fuk of poor planning and anticipation.   

I don't know if a Trump admin would have done better.   That will always be a hypothetical.    But I do know for sure that the current admin fuk'd this up royally.     We were down to 3500 and hadn't had a US military KIA since 2/2020.   Somehow things were somewhat "safe" to be there as a US citizen/ally.     There had to have been a way to engineer this exit better.    Seeing this coming to some degree should have been step 1. . .  

Agree

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33 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Queen Kamala

She doesn't get a pass on this.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/25/harris-afghanistan-biden-withdrawal-decision-484581

Vice President Kamala Harris confirmed Sunday that she was the last person in the room before President Joe Biden made the decision to pull all U.S. troops out of Afghanistan.

In an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union,” Harris was asked about being the last person in the room regarding major decisions, something that Biden has said is important to him in his working relationship with the vice president. Harris confirmed that was the case regarding the move to pull U.S. troops out of Afghanistan by Sept. 11.

[BeenHereBefore 1,537]

I said before don't disagree with leaving but it's how they handle it just like the border thing I do disagree with. This Administration could fock up a sh!t sandwich.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Just now, avoiding injuries said:

It wouldn’t have happened this way under Trump. There was an actual plan that was to be implemented if and when they ever made the decision to leave. 

No, I have a hard time believing he'd have abandoned tens of thousands of Americans to a grim fate. 

So what happens if\when the taliban butchers our people?

That can't focking stand right? We go back in and crack skulls? Which will be all the harder for having no Allies...

What a cluster fock...

Oh how history loves to be a repetitive b!tch...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1842_retreat_from_Kabul

[JustinCharge 2,397]

The media turning on biden for a little bit means nothing.   They always are attacking republicans 95% of the time and then democrats 5% to Falsely claim They are middle of the road.  They always pivot off of that by trying some fresh new attacks on republicans.  Looks like itll be the texas gov getting covid.  

[wiffleball 4,790]

11 minutes ago, Masshole said:

The speed and degree of this debacle would reinforce this point.    Even if you say "it's not as bad as it looks", even granting that (which I don't) - it's a monumental failure to be so surprised by this.    If you see even 50% of this coming, you would have had to change the method, means, and possibly the timing of the exit.    This looks like (and probably is) a complete cluster fuk of poor planning and anticipation.   

I don't know if a Trump admin would have done better.   That will always be a hypothetical.    But I do know for sure that the current admin fuk'd this up royally.     We were down to 3500 and hadn't had a US military KIA since 2/2020.   Somehow things were somewhat "safe" to be there as a US citizen/ally.     There had to have been a way to engineer this exit better.    Seeing this coming to some degree should have been step 1. . .  

As far as the assets go? For you Geniuses with no f****** memory? Some pencil Pusher in DC realized it would cost more to ship our already beat to assets home from Iraq thsn to just leave them there. And then the first caliphate in a 5 thousand years happens. And guess who took control of all those assets? Do you guys even remember the name of the leader of the caliphate without Googling it?

 

Jesus Christ. We made the same f****** mistakes in our own flocking lifetime. 

 

To put it into simpler perspective; We made the same f****** mistakes in Afghanistan that we made in Iraq in less time than South Park has been airing. 

 

And idiots arguing whether it's r or D who's the worst are exactly what they want.

[BeenHereBefore 1,537]

4 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

No, I have a hard time believing he'd have abandoned tens of thousands of Americans to a grim fate. 

So what happens if\when the taliban butchers our people?

That can't focking stand right? We go back in and crack skulls? Which will be all the harder for having no Allies...

What a cluster fock...

Oh how history loves to be a repetitive b!tch...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1842_retreat_from_Kabul

Taliban would be really focking stupid to fock with our people on the way out, That will bring us back in and keep them from taking over and their goal. But who knows they aren't the brightest.

[Gepetto 1,372]

Trump is speaking on Fox News about it now.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 minute ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Taliban would be really focking stupid to fock with our people on the way out, That will bring us back in and keep them from taking over and their goal. But who knows they aren't the brightest.

Yeah, reason and restraint is not what they are known for. And they've been in either prison or in hiding for a long time because of us. They're gonna want blood I'm sure.

I doubt “the taliban” is a very cohesive and well controlled group at this point anyway. Probably many local leaders.

I could see an Iran hostage situation coming. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

10 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

It wouldn’t have happened this way under Trump. There was an actual plan that was to be implemented if and when they ever made the decision to leave. 

Oh Jesus.. 

Was he waiting for the friends reunions to happen first?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Just now, wiffleball said:

Oh Jesus.. 

Was he waiting for the friends reunions to happen first?

Didn't happen in four years under him...

Happened in 8 months under Biden...

Fock Afghanistan and her people, but 30-40k Americans? That is unforgivable. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Trump: I agree with Pres. Obama on Afghanistan. We should have a speedy withdrawal. Why should we keep wasting our money -- rebuild the U.S.!

Trump: We have wasted an enormous amount of blood and treasure in Afghanistan. Their government has zero appreciation. Let's get out!

[wiffleball 4,790]

1 minute ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Didn't happen in four years under him...

Happened in 8 months under Biden...

Fock Afghanistan and her people, but 30-40k Americans? That is unforgivable. 

Jesus Christ. You people not get Google on your phones? Because I do. And mine barely makes f****** phone calls.

But I think it boils down to you don't Google for answers you don't want to get in the first f****** place.

 

Five years ago to the day Monday, Trump called Afghanistan "a complete waste." He added: "Time to come home!"

Trump: Why are we continuing to train these Afghanis who then shoot our soldiers in the back? Afghanistan is a complete waste. Time to come home!

In a March 2013 tweet, he said the U.S. "should leave Afghanistan immediately."

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, wiffleball said:

Trump: I agree with Pres. Obama on Afghanistan. We should have a speedy withdrawal. Why should we keep wasting our money -- rebuild the U.S.!

Trump: We have wasted an enormous amount of blood and treasure in Afghanistan. Their government has zero appreciation. Let's get out!

TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[wiffleball 4,790]

2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See dullard, that's getting f****** old. Especially when someone brings up that Trump would have done something differently.

 

Grow up and get a new line.

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, wiffleball said:

See dullard, that's getting f****** old. Especially when someone brings up that Trump would have done something differently.

 

Grow up and get a new line.

creepy joe is 8 months in and blaming Trump. Just like you.

TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

7 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Jesus Christ. You people not get Google on your phones? Because I do. And mine barely makes f****** phone calls.

But I think it boils down to you don't Google for answers you don't want to get in the first f****** place.

 

Five years ago to the day Monday, Trump called Afghanistan "a complete waste." He added: "Time to come home!"

Trump: Why are we continuing to train these Afghanis who then shoot our soldiers in the back? Afghanistan is a complete waste. Time to come home!

In a March 2013 tweet, he said the U.S. "should leave Afghanistan immediately."

Yes. He did. And I, and a majority of Americans, agree with that statement.

There is a difference between “withdraw” and “abandon 30-40k American citizens to kidnapping torture and death.”

But you know that.

We're going to see Americans up for ransom on a huge scale. Will make us look what we are... weak and feckless.

Jimmy Carter 2.0

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Yes. He did. And I, and a majority of Americans, agree with that statement.

There is a difference between “withdraw” and “abandon 30-40k American citizens to kidnapping torture and death.”

But you know that.

We're going to see Americans up for ransom on a huge scale. Will make us look what we are... weak and feckless.

Jimmy Carter 2.0

creepy joe is already kissing ass asking "please dear taliban, let us get some people back".

phag president if I ever saw one. This guy will be gone soon. Buckle up for kameltoe and the continued destruction of the US.

[wiffleball 4,790]

9 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Yes. He did. And I, and a majority of Americans, agree with that statement.

There is a difference between “withdraw” and “abandon 30-40k American citizens to kidnapping torture and death.”

But you know that.

We're going to see Americans up for ransom on a huge scale. Will make us look what we are... weak and feckless.

Jimmy Carter 2.0

Except f*** stick. I would bet you that there were twice that many citizens when Trump made those statements. Wouldn't you agree just common sense wise?

 Like trump had absolutely no access to State dept files that indicated how many tens of thousands of American citizens were in there at the time when he made the statement come home now get out of Afghanistan now!

We're actually wasting time arguing whether Trump or Biden is better on a shitshow call that  goes all the way back to Bush the retarded.

[KSB2424 3,148]

6 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Jimmy Carter 2.0

We have a winner. 

[shorepatrol 1,870]

32 minutes ago, Masshole said:

The speed and degree of this debacle would reinforce this point.    Even if you say "it's not as bad as it looks", even granting that (which I don't) - it's a monumental failure to be so surprised by this.    If you see even 50% of this coming, you would have had to change the method, means, and possibly the timing of the exit.    This looks like (and probably is) a complete cluster fuk of poor planning and anticipation.   

I don't know if a Trump admin would have done better.   That will always be a hypothetical.    But I do know for sure that the current admin fuk'd this up royally.     We were down to 3500 and hadn't had a US military KIA since 2/2020.   Somehow things were somewhat "safe" to be there as a US citizen/ally.     There had to have been a way to engineer this exit better.    Seeing this coming to some degree should have been step 1. . .  

I posted a video of Pompeo explaining why this is happening. It's not rocket surgery. These clowns feared what would happen to them and their families if they focked with America on the pull out. Nobody fears this administration, every adversary has gotten froggy since the steal. Clown show 

[wiffleball 4,790]

And please, for the love of holy Christ buckaroo fockstick, please explain to me the difference between abandon and withdraw. I really want to f****** here this one. Jackass.  Lol

 

 we didn't withdraw from the ship, we abandoned it!

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

Except f*** stick. I would bet you that there were twice that many citizens when Trump made those statements. Wouldn't you agree just common sense wise?

 

My trump had absolutely no access to State Farm and files that indicated how many tens of thousands of American citizens were in there at the time when he made the statement come home now get out of Afghanistan now!

We're actually wasting time arguing whether Trump or Biden is better on a shitshow call that  goes all the way back to Bush the retarded.

Biden??????????? What??????????????????

TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

43 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Frustrates the s*** out of me that some if us knew this was a manipulation from day one. Every time Bush or Cheney or Rumsfeld mention 911, they mentioned Iraq or Afghanistan. Even though they had nothing to do with it.  

 

Amazing how easily they co-opted the Dixie Chicks haters rage and frustration. And I remember those days vividly on this board.

 

But, I told you so doesn't mean s***. And unfortunately those f****** didn't end up in the Hague. I can only hope they end up in hell.

 

Remember how Cheney sold out a CIA agent and therefore everyone who was  affiliated with  her because he was so mad that her husband said yellow cake uranium was b*******?  You know how many people died because of that? That we'll never know? Oya, that story doesnt get told anymore.

 

Oh, and todays story that the Taliban ended up with all of our weaponry? Same f****** thing happened with AQ in Iraq. 

 

Jesus Fock. 

 

Remember how many of you losers swore that they did find weapons of mass destruction? Because Fox told you they did? Except they were the SAME weapons of mass destruction from 20 years before? F****** own it you f****** cowards.

 

...or change your alias and whine about Obummers gluten free birthday cake. 

Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11? The country Bin Laden operated from? Remember that guy? 

[KSB2424 3,148]

I have him on ignore but they keep quoting him.  

Don't feed the insane, they only grow larger.  

[wiffleball 4,790]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11? The country Bin Laden operated from? Remember that guy? 

Oh Jesus... 19 of the 20 Hijackers, All of the material funding and OBLs safe space and origin was from where, Arkansas?  Lol

 

...and whered we find him,? The Hamptons? 

 

Jesus Krispies. Lol

 

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

16 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

And please, for the love of holy Christ buckaroo fockstick, please explain to me the difference between abandon and withdraw. I really want to f****** here this one. Jackass.  Lol

 

 we didn't withdraw from the ship, we abandoned it!

Wiff... you know I love ya.

Shut the fock up. You're too drunk to post, even for you. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11? The country Bin Laden operated from? Remember that guy? 

And oh, by the way, where did yellow cake uranium come from? Here's a hint, not there.