Afghanistan

[IGotWorms 4,058]

35 minutes ago, MLCKAA said:

Are you calling me a hyper-partisan guy?  I can’t remember the last time I even posted in one of the political threads.

If you missed the first 10 minutes, you oughta go back and check it.  My synopsis is accurate.

Leaving is def the thing to do.  Been waiting since Obama promised to do it in 2008.  Trump did a good job drawing down.  Biden has completed it and I’m glad.  Don’t assign Biden courage, though.  He’s anything but courageous.

You don’t post very often but when you do it often seems political and it’s always pretty hard right. That’s my recollection anyways. And your posts here prove it. Wanted to leave Afghanistan, glad we did, yet all you’re gonna do is bash Biden over it

[Fireballer 2,642]

5 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hillary-clinton-afghanistan-video-kabul-b1903496.html

Wait...did she make some type of sense there?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,494]

Now the Taliban is kidnapping the relatives of interpreters that fled to the US. They say come back and face justice or your family will be killed. 

[MLCKAA 576]

7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You don’t post very often but when you do it often seems political and it’s always pretty hard right. That’s my recollection anyways. And your posts here prove it. Wanted to leave Afghanistan, glad we did, yet all you’re gonna do is bash Biden over it

Sigh.  You are incorrect.  Simply wrong.  I don’t generally make political posts.  That’s deliberate.  When a non-political poster makes the choice to wade in at a place like this, you should probably stop to consider why.  

It is entirely possible to be disappointed in Biden without being a hack.

ETA:  re-read my original comments.  I didn’t bash Biden for pulling out troops.  I criticized his speech.  

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You don’t post very often but when you do it often seems political and it’s always pretty hard right. That’s my recollection anyways. And your posts here prove it. Wanted to leave Afghanistan, glad we did, yet all you’re gonna do is bash Biden over it

Yeah. And killary didn't fock up Benghazi. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Now the Taliban is kidnapping the relatives of interpreters that fled to the US. They say come back and face justice or your family will be killed. 

Hey, creepy joe has been festering in political.office for 50 years now, don't you dare second guess his decisions. It's all Trump's fault. 

[Strike 5,570]

After his 18 minute speech Sleepy Joe heading back to Camp David to resume his vacation. 

[Baker Boy 1,703]

Get ready for the Allahu Akbar attacks to resume in the USA, something we haven’t seen since the Obama Administration.

[Baker Boy 1,703]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

You don’t post very often but when you do it often seems political and it’s always pretty hard right. That’s my recollection anyways. And your posts here prove it. Wanted to leave Afghanistan, glad we did, yet all you’re gonna do is bash Biden over it

It is not a question of leaving but of How We Left. HTH

Biden screwed this up big time. 
 

Don’t be afraid to see what you see.

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

Jesus..reading how many weapons they now posess.  A freaking flight simulator F-14 was left...

Iran is sporting major wood!!

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Now the Taliban is kidnapping the relatives of interpreters that fled to the US. They say come back and face justice or your family will be killed. 

Wow, what a disaster

[Cdub100 3,929]

Seeing Tailban inside my MRAPs is making me sick.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,494]

We are heading towards a hot war. And I’m sure the United Nations will be saying how awful we are and not lifting a finger to help. China controls that now. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

It is not a question of leaving but of How We Left. HTH

Biden screwed this up big time. 
 

Don’t be afraid to see what you see.

mdc replies witb TRUMP!!!

worms replies with .

What else do you need to know about liberals?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

10 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

So they plan on relocating 30k Afghans into the U.S.? 

Nice

To a purple state no doubt. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,494]

Just now, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

To a purple state no doubt. 

Gonna be a lot more than 30 k. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Gonna be a lot more than 30 k. 

Of course. Don't forget the 200k a month at the border, and the God knows how many we let in from wherever legally.

They won't be settled in New York or Cali. No, it will be Virginia and North Carolina and Ohio and Wisconsin. Places the votes will be useful to the democrats. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,494]

2 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Of course. Don't forget the 200k a month at the border, and the God knows how many we let in from wherever legally.

They won't be settled in New York or Cali. No, it will be Virginia and North Carolina and Ohio and Wisconsin. Places the votes will be useful to the democrats. 

They like to tuck refugees in upstate New York. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Of course. Don't forget the 200k a month at the border, and the God knows how many we let in from wherever legally.

They won't be settled in New York or Cali. No, it will be Virginia and North Carolina and Ohio and Wisconsin. Places the votes will be useful to the democrats. 

creepy joe has been shipping them to virginia and texas for 8 months now. 

They want Texas bad.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

creepy joe has been shiiping them to virginia and texas for 8 months now. 

They want Texas bad.

Yeah, that is the prize that locks Republicans out of the white house forever. 

[shorepatrol 1,870]

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

24 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Yeah, that is the prize that locks Republicans out of the white house forever. 

If they ever win Texas, I will be willing to join in a revolution. It's disgusting with the left has been doing to this country. Push back is simply a child's term at this point. Full on assault is necessary to put these liberals down. No less.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

If they ever win Texas, I will be willing to join in a revolution. It's disgusting with the left has been doing to this country. Push back is simply a child's term at this point. Full on assault is necessary to put these liberals down. No more.

People don't even realize how they resettle refugees and immigrants as they like to change the political landscape.

Look at Minnesota. You don't think a bunch of Somalis just had an itch to see snow and learn to play hockey?

In Tennessee, we have lots of Laotians and Vietnamese from that Era, and parts of Antioch are Kurdish town. Not to mention the little Mexico sections of course. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

21 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

 

Lol that dweeb thinks he has a shot at 2024

[Big Guy 1,412]

have these sand rats never seen a Jet before? 

[MLCKAA 576]

1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

People don't even realize how they resettle refugees and immigrants as they like to change the political landscape.

Look at Minnesota. You don't think a bunch of Somalis just had an itch to see snow and learn to play hockey?

In Tennessee, we have lots of Laotians and Vietnamese from that Era, and parts of Antioch are Kurdish town. Not to mention the little Mexico sections of course. 

The south side of Indy is LOADED with Burmese.

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1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

People don't even realize how they resettle refugees and immigrants as they like to change the political landscape.

Look at Minnesota. You don't think a bunch of Somalis just had an itch to see snow and learn to play hockey?

In Tennessee, we have lots of Laotians and Vietnamese from that Era, and parts of Antioch are Kurdish town. Not to mention the little Mexico sections of course. 

We did it successfully with the Hmong after Vietnam.  Partly because they are farming people, and we have plenty of fertile farming land. 

Having the Somali's here made no sense.  It all had something to do with a random diplomat who happened to live here.

Not sure what Afgani's do best.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

32 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

We did it successfully with the Hmong after Vietnam.  Partly because they are farming people, and we have plenty of fertile farming land. 

Having the Somali's here made no sense.  It all had something to do with a random diplomat who happened to live here.

Not sure what Afgani's do best.

Grow heroin poppies mostly. 

[TimHauck 2,906]

12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Now the Taliban is kidnapping the relatives of interpreters that fled to the US. They say come back and face justice or your family will be killed. 

Meanwhile in Colorado

 

 

[Fireballer 2,642]

59 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Meanwhile in Colorado

 

 

I mostly like her voting record but she's turned out to be an idiotic MTG wanna- be attention hoor.

[Fireballer 2,642]

How would you think these fukers wouldn't lay down when they needed to fight?  A large portion want sharia law and you expect them to fight the Taliban?  

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

31 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

How would you think these fukers wouldn't lay down when they needed to fight?  A large portion want sharia law and you expect them to fight the Taliban?  

Yep. You can lead a horse to water...

[Masshole 642]

This I think sums up the situation we find ourselves in well:

The false choice here was Option A, stay there forever; Option B, this. But there was also Option C, which you might think of as Jacksonian withdrawal: that is, precision bomb the hell out of every Taliban camp on the way out the door, render every Humvee unusable, burn every piece of material, and let the Afghans line up and execute every ISIS terrorist at Bagram. We have once again allowed a bunch of really nasty people to go free and kill again.

Why do we need to do that?

A larger question is: competence aside, if the United States is unwilling to do what is necessary to win asymmetric wars, by what moral calculus can we enter them? Part of what we talk about when we say we don’t win wars anymore is that the United States started prioritizing certain types of people’s opinions about our tactics.

We should probably avoid these entanglements altogether as we lack the will to do the things necessary to win these kinds of wars.    That may not necessarily be a bad thing, if you look at history, the countries/empires that could "win" these kinds of things had to be absolutely ruthless.  Is that who we want to be?   If not - then you have no chance of winning these kinds of wars.   In this age of social media and with our form of gov't (for as long as it lasts) - I doubt we have the capability/will/backbone to do what would have to be done to "win".    So the only option really is just STFO ("stay the fuk out").    

[Hardcore troubadour 15,494]

We have all the food and energy we need right in our own country. There is no need for us to be in these places.  But the globalists need a bouncer. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Meanwhile in Colorado

 

 

This is why you shouldn’t elect a cvm dumpster to congress. They have their place  But not as putative lawmakers

[Hardcore troubadour 15,494]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

This is why you shouldn’t elect a cvm dumpster to congress. They have their place  But not as putative lawmakers

The whack jobs on the right are isolated and contained. The ones on the left set policy. There is a difference. 

[TimHauck 2,906]

1 hour ago, Masshole said:

This I think sums up the situation we find ourselves in well:

The false choice here was Option A, stay there forever; Option B, this. But there was also Option C, which you might think of as Jacksonian withdrawal: that is, precision bomb the hell out of every Taliban camp on the way out the door, render every Humvee unusable, burn every piece of material, and let the Afghans line up and execute every ISIS terrorist at Bagram. We have once again allowed a bunch of really nasty people to go free and kill again.

Why do we need to do that?

A larger question is: competence aside, if the United States is unwilling to do what is necessary to win asymmetric wars, by what moral calculus can we enter them? Part of what we talk about when we say we don’t win wars anymore is that the United States started prioritizing certain types of people’s opinions about our tactics.

We should probably avoid these entanglements altogether as we lack the will to do the things necessary to win these kinds of wars.    That may not necessarily be a bad thing, if you look at history, the countries/empires that could "win" these kinds of things had to be absolutely ruthless.  Is that who we want to be?   If not - then you have no chance of winning these kinds of wars.   In this age of social media and with our form of gov't (for as long as it lasts) - I doubt we have the capability/will/backbone to do what would have to be done to "win".    So the only option really is just STFO ("stay the fuk out").    

This is probably a fair discussion, but I've seen the claim that we should now be expecting attacks on the US by the Taliban.   But if the Taliban is getting what they want by taking control of Afghanistan, why would they attack us?   I'd see more reason for them to attack us if we bombed the hell out of them first...

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

The whack jobs on the right are isolated and contained. The ones on the left set policy. There is a difference. 

Gonna be a while until you can sell that BS, given that you just recently put one in the White House

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1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

This is probably a fair discussion, but I've seen the claim that we should now be expecting attacks on the US by the Taliban.   But if the Taliban is getting what they want by taking control of Afghanistan, why would they attack us?   I'd see more reason for them to attack us if we bombed the hell out of them first...

For the same reason they attacked us before...

[Hardcore troubadour 15,494]

So watching yesterday, I once again heard the backwards, retarded notion that we fought them over there so we wouldn’t have to fight them here. More neo con nonsense. I have an idea, maybe we just don’t let them come here? Oh yeah, Trump tried that. Raaaaaacist!