TBayXXXVII 2,634 Posted October 28, 2022 21 hours ago, dogcows said: but FB is just a complete cesspool; a place for angry old people to complain to like-minded elderly grumps. Young people left Facebook to get away from the old people... and then became the same people on Twitter. That's the only difference between the two platforms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,634 Posted October 28, 2022 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: Elon should hire Professor Morris. This man is the voice of reason. And a Phillies fan Voice of reason? Really? He comes off as a bit of a bigot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,136 Posted October 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What’s that that no one wants? Full blown totalitarianism. We’ve already seen what the ruling class is willing to do when challenged by the plebs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 1,136 Posted October 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: What’s that that no one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,825 Posted October 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: Full blown totalitarianism. We’ve already seen what the ruling class is willing to do when challenged by the plebs. I don’t know how voting the left out would bring that about. Not saying you are wrong, I’m just not seeing it. I just want the madness curtailed at least. Or at least try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,032 Posted October 28, 2022 The layoffs at Twitter have already begun: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted October 28, 2022 I believe I read that many employees are running their little pvssy asses out as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,187 Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: Voice of reason? Really? He comes off as a bit of a bigot. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,634 Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Lol Well, he literally said to ignore people. He's clearly talking about people whom he doesn't agree with. No? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,187 Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said: Well, he literally said to ignore people. He's clearly talking about people whom he doesn't agree with. No? Ignoring people makes you a bigot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,634 Posted October 28, 2022 Just now, TimHauck said: Ignoring people makes you a bigot? Ignoring people you don't agree with, solely because they disagree with you, yes... that's being a bigot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,450 Posted October 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, RLLD said: I believe I read that many employees are running their little pvssy asses out as well. This is what Musk should do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,977 Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, dogcows said: The layoffs at Twitter have already begun: Fetterman? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,187 Posted October 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Ignoring people you don't agree with, solely because they disagree with you, yes... that's being a bigot. You clearly haven’t read much of Morris’s stuff. He remains incredibly calm even when arguing things that certified crazy people like Steve Kirsch or “the Ethical Skeptic” have said. But there are some people that are too far gone (or just trolling) that he needs to ignore - I think he’s just saying there might be more of those now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 28, 2022 38 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Ignoring people you don't agree with, solely because they disagree with you, yes... that's being a bigot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,634 Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You clearly haven’t read much of Morris’s stuff. He remains incredibly calm even when arguing things that certified crazy people like Steve Kirsch or “the Ethical Skeptic” have said. But there are some people that are too far gone (or just trolling) that he needs to ignore - I think he’s just saying there might be more of those now. Never heard of him. You posted a tweet by some guy. I read it as such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,634 Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: Yes, Democrats. We finally agree. Look at that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 28, 2022 48 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Yes, Democrats. We finally agree. Look at that. So I don't want to be a bigot, but I do tend to ignore people that I don't agree with. What should I be doing instead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,032 Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, RLLD said: I believe I read that many employees are running their little pvssy asses out as well. He said he’s gonna fire 75% of the employees. If I worked for a company whose owner said that, I would send resumes out immediately. I honestly doubt most Twitter employees care about the politics. They just need a job, so it’s better to quit and find another job than to be fired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,825 Posted October 28, 2022 I’m betting a good chunk of these Twitter employees are here on work visas. Now that they don’t have a job they can leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, dogcows said: He said he’s gonna fire 75% of the employees. If I worked for a company whose owner said that, I would send resumes out immediately. I honestly doubt most Twitter employees care about the politics. They just need a job, so it’s better to quit and find another job than to be fired. How can he possibly fire 75% of the workforce? He's gonna destroy this company. Insane. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,894 Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: How can he possibly fire 75% of the workforce? He's gonna destroy this company. Insane. Maybe they aren't necessary? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,404 Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Strike said: Maybe they aren't necessary? Could also be he's focking around and fishing for entertaining meltdown reactions since he has a sort of gallows humor about him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,032 Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: How can he possibly fire 75% of the workforce? He's gonna destroy this company. Insane. I’ve read a number of articles indicating that Twitter has far more employees than it needs. Of course, Musk also claims he’s going to turn Twitter into an “everything” app like WeChat in China. Somehow, that doesn’t mesh with firing 75% of your employees. So who knows what his actual plans are… if he even has any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Strike said: Maybe they aren't necessary? I find that hard to believe. You can cut maybe 20%. Ive never seen an organization that poorly run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,380 Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 12:26 PM, Shooter McGavin said: How can he possibly fire 75% of the workforce? He's gonna destroy this company. Insane. Read yesterday that in his meetings with employees he's already backed off that number. Entire thing is interesting as an observer, maybe he makes it grow and become profitable, but recent trends don't support that outcome. Just my opinion, but he just bought Pet.com in 1999. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Read yesterday that in his meetings with employees he's already backed off that number. Entire thing is interesting as an observer, maybe he makes it grow and become profitable, but recent trends do support that outcome. Just my opinion, but he just bought Pet.com in 1999. I don't know anyone that works at Twitter so I can't offer any insight. Will be interesting indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,450 Posted October 28, 2022 29 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: How can he possibly fire 75% of the workforce? He's gonna destroy this company. Insane. Did you look at the video showing what a day of work is? It looked like they had cooks there. How many employees do they actually need there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Did you look at the video showing what a day of work is? It looked like they had cooks there. How many employees do they actually need there? Cooks? Most corporate offices do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,450 Posted October 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Cooks? Most corporate offices do I just have a feeling they have a lot of wasteful spending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,894 Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Cooks? Most corporate offices do LOL. Sure they do. I'm at the main corporate office for a major corporation right now. We don't have any cooks. I've worked for several of the largest corporations in this country and have yet to see any cooks. I mean, we have a cafeteria and it has several fast food type places in it. Basically, it's a food court and I guess you could classify the people making food there as cooks. But I don't think that's what we're talking about relative to that video. I will concede that many tech firms, and Twitter is one, do tend to offer things like that. Seems kind of dumb for a company that hasn't really ever made a profit though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I just have a feeling they have a lot of wasteful spending. Most corporate offices do as well. That's how they get talent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,894 Posted October 28, 2022 45 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: I find that hard to believe. You can cut maybe 20%. Ive never seen an organization that poorly run. Sure. He's not cutting 75%. We know that. But they have a lot of woke jobs that could certainly be cut back on, such as their moderation staff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Strike said: LOL. Sure they do. I'm at the main corporate office for a major corporation right now. We don't have any cooks. I've worked for several of the largest corporations in this country and have yet to see any cooks. I mean, we have a cafeteria and it has several fast food type places in it. Basically, it's a food court and I guess you could classify the people making food there as cooks. But I don't think that's what we're talking about relative to that video. I will concede that many tech firms, and Twitter is one, do tend to offer things like that. Seems kind of dumb for a company that hasn't really ever made a profit though. Yes I was referring to people that make food in the cafeteria, you know, cooks. I didn't watch the video. Is there another type of cook? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,032 Posted October 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Strike said: LOL. Sure they do. I'm at the main corporate office for a major corporation right now. We don't have any cooks. I've worked for several of the largest corporations in this country and have yet to see any cooks. I mean, we have a cafeteria and it has several fast food type places in it. Basically, it's a food court and I guess you could classify the people making food there as cooks. But I don't think that's what we're talking about relative to that video. I will concede that many tech firms, and Twitter is one, do tend to offer things like that. Seems kind of dumb for a company that hasn't really ever made a profit though. Having followed the tech sector for a long time, the “perks” serve two main purposes. First, it’s about attracting young talent. Unlimited free food and drink is appealing to young single workers who probably don’t want to cook for themselves. Second, it’s about maximizing time at the office. The idea is that if they’ve got food, a video arcade, pool tables, etc, etc. at work… you have anything you need or want and can stay there until late in the evening and only go home to sleep. I question whether the idea of the perks was ever really as effective as the bosses thought. And with work-from-home a big reality now, I feel like even the bosses who pushed for them have to be questioning their effects. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,825 Posted October 28, 2022 I worked at the PepsiCo world HQ in the late 80’s. We had a cafeteria with cooks. But we had to pay for everything but drinks and chips. Doesn’t look from that video the employees had to pay. And Wine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,894 Posted October 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Yes I was referring to people that make food in the cafeteria, you know, cooks. I didn't watch the video. Is there another type of cook? LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,031 Posted October 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, dogcows said: Having followed the tech sector for a long time, the “perks” serve two main purposes. First, it’s about attracting young talent. Unlimited free food and drink is appealing to young single workers who probably don’t want to cook for themselves. Second, it’s about maximizing time at the office. The idea is that if they’ve got food, a video arcade, pool tables, etc, etc. at work… you have anything you need or want and can stay there until late in the evening and only go home to sleep. I question whether the idea of the perks was ever really as effective as the bosses thought. And with work-from-home a big reality now, I feel like even the bosses who pushed for them have to be questioning their effects. Unlimited free food and drink sounds like a terrible idea if you care about employee health and keeping insurance premiums down. Perhaps it doesn't matter if turnover is really high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,668 Posted October 28, 2022 The lights have been turned on, and the rats are scurrying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites