If Jesus was a Jew

[IGotWorms 4,058]

… why didn’t the Christians just become Jews?

Why the need to found a whole new religion?

He’s your boy and he was a Jew! So why wasn’t Judaism good enough?

[BeenHereBefore 1,536]

8 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

… why didn’t the Christians just become Jews?

Why the need to found a whole new religion?

He’s your boy and he was a Jew! So why wasn’t Judaism good enough?

The Jews rejected Jesus as their savior.. Read your Bible! You probably don't want too but the Jews still do till this day.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,492]

Now do other religions. You won’t. Your religion, woke, doesn’t allow it. Fraud. 

[jonmx 2,429]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Now do other religions. You won’t. Your religion, woke, doesn’t allow it. Fraud. 

Like way your religious icon a war-monfering pedophile Bigot? 

[Cdub100 3,929]

27 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

… why didn’t the Christians just become Jews?

Why the need to found a whole new religion?

He’s your boy and he was a Jew! So why wasn’t Judaism good enough?

Jesus was sent to bring the next chapter of human life and the jews didn't believe Him to be the son of God. So they killed him.

SO yeah when you kill the son of God you gotta change it up.

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,357]

God isn’t real and all religions are made to control the masses

[Hardcore troubadour 15,492]

3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

God isn’t real and all religions are made to control the masses

See, this has merit. Just constantly going after one because you can is a bich move. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

See, this has merit. Just constantly going after one because you can is a bich move. 

Lol, you are a humorless kvnt

[Bier Meister 1,715]

What do you mean “if” Jesus was a Jew?

 

is there anything, anywhere that suggests he wasn’t?

[IGotWorms 4,058]

10 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

What do you mean “if” Jesus was a Jew?

 

is there anything, anywhere that suggests he wasn’t?

I think the anti-semites like to claim he wasn’t, or that he rejected Judaism? I don’t know

[TimmySmith 2,782]

I really don't understand the question. Many of his followers were Jews. The ones that weren't jews weren't allowed to become jews. You didn't convert back then.

[5-Points 3,566]

3 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

Jesus was sent to bring the next chapter of human life and the jews didn't believe Him to be the son of God. So they killed him.

SO yeah when you kill the son of God you gotta change it up.

 

They weren't sure so they had the Romans kill him. Poosays.

[Cdub100 3,929]

58 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

They weren't sure so they had the Romans kill him. Poosays.

It's what jews do.

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I don’t know

You really just need to say this all the time. Then you would always be correct. 

[frank 2,307]

2 hours ago, 5-Points said:

They weren't sure so they had the Romans kill him. Poosays.

What have the Romans ever done for us?

[SUXBNME 1,515]

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Is this the ***official*** what did the Easter Bunny bring thread? 

[Voltaire 5,317]

16 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

… why didn’t the Christians just become Jews?

Why the need to found a whole new religion?

He’s your boy and he was a Jew! So why wasn’t Judaism good enough?

One fissure is that early Christians claimed Jewish religious leadership was instrumental in convincing the Romans to execute Jesus. Turning around and following them, after their complicity in Jesus' execution must not have seemed to set well with Christ's followers. Another is that Judaism wasn't/isn't a proselytizing religion, it was mostly for ethnic Jews. Christianity, on the other hand, involved St. Paul and others actively recruiting converts to Jesus' teachings.

 

[peenie 1,915]

Jesus was a Jew, yes. Perhaps you’re asking why don’t the Jews believe he is the Messiah?

Because he was NOT:

A descendant of King David on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Ezekiel 34:23-24).

Born of human parents and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, nor will he possess supernatural qualities.

Because he did NOT:

1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, peenie said:

Jesus was a Jew, yes. Perhaps you’re asking why don’t the Jews believe he is the Messiah? 

Because he did NOT:

1. Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
2. Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
3. Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
4. Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).

If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

And obviously today's Christians believe he did fulfill all. The Jews belief in the laws of the Torah get in the way of the word of God. 

[peenie 1,915]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

And obviously today's Christians believe he did fulfill all. The Jews belief in the laws of the Torah get in the way of the word of God. 

Hey man, I was explaining why the current day Jews reject Jesus as their Messiah. I went to Catholic elementary school, all girls Catholic high school and all girls Catholic college. My father was a United Methodist Pastor. Please know, I’m not looking for a debate. I’m atheist. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

11 minutes ago, peenie said:

Hey man, I was explaining why the current day Jews reject Jesus as their Messiah. I went to Catholic elementary school, all girls Catholic high school and all girls Catholic college. My father was a United Methodist Pastor. Please know, I’m not looking for a debate. I’m atheist. 

Happy Easter peenie.  Relax and have a good time. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

8 hours ago, Voltaire said:

One fissure is that early Christians claimed Jewish religious leadership was instrumental in convincing the Romans to execute Jesus. Turning around and following them, after their complicity in Jesus' execution must not have seemed to set well with Christ's followers. Another is that Judaism wasn't/isn't a proselytizing religion, it was mostly for ethnic Jews. Christianity, on the other hand, involved St. Paul and others actively recruiting converts to Jesus' teachings.

 

Good points, thanks

[jerryskids 6,827]

11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

One fissure is that early Christians claimed Jewish religious leadership was instrumental in convincing the Romans to execute Jesus. Turning around and following them, after their complicity in Jesus' execution must not have seemed to set well with Christ's followers. Another is that Judaism wasn't/isn't a proselytizing religion, it was mostly for ethnic Jews. Christianity, on the other hand, involved St. Paul and others actively recruiting converts to Jesus' teachings.

 

The Source by James Michener is a phenomenal book which explores the evolution of religion as seen through an archeological dig in the middle east.  In the book he proposes that the vast popularity of Christianity was due to its willingness to accept anyone as long as they accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.  Judaism on the other hand was exclusionary, requiring tracing of maternal blood lines or some such shiot. 

 

[peenie 1,915]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

The Source by James Michener is a phenomenal book which explores the evolution of religion as seen through an archeological dig in the middle east.  In the book he proposes that the vast popularity of Christianity was due to its willingness to accept anyone as long as they accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.  Judaism on the other hand was exclusionary, requiring tracing of maternal blood lines or some such shiot. 

 

The Crusades?

[Casual Observer 597]

On 4/16/2022 at 11:44 AM, IGotWorms said:

… why didn’t the Christians just become Jews?

Why the need to found a whole new religion?

He’s your boy and he was a Jew! So why wasn’t Judaism good enough?

What was your religious upbringing?

[jerryskids 6,827]

2 hours ago, peenie said:

The Crusades?

What about them? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,492]

Just now, jerryskids said:

What about them? 

Peenie thinks, like most ignorant liberals, that the crusades only went one way, good guys vs bad guys. Much like ignorant liberals think the same about Ukraine.   

[peenie 1,915]

26 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

What about them? 

Helped the spread of Christianity. 

[peenie 1,915]

23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Peenie thinks, like most ignorant liberals, that the crusades only went one way, good guys vs bad guys. Much like ignorant liberals think the same about Ukraine.   

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

[fandandy 3,313]

His entire point was that the message was lost.  He is dealing with a bunch of Jews.  They are inherently nefarious.  Time has proven this to be a fact.  He was saying, you guys have this entire message wrong.  He pointed put out with balls of steel how much they had it wrong.  They were embarrassed and hated him for it.  

Faith is faith.  It is that simple.  You believe or you do not.  I personally don't care where anyone else ends up for eternity.  I am a selfish sinful bastard but if you don't mind, say hello to the debbil for me.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Peenie thinks, like most ignorant liberals, that the crusades only went one way, good guys vs bad guys. Much like ignorant liberals think the same about Ukraine.   

Lol yep, you’re so enlightened by buying into Putin’s anti-democracy propaganda

[GobbleDog 997]

I took a religious history course in college. Mega-weird professor. 

In any case, he once talked about "Lilith" who was Adam's first wife before Eve, according to early Hebrew bibles.  Lilith was a dominate woman who among other things - wanted to be on top during sex. She eventually left the Garden of Eden because she refused to be subservient to Adam. Lilith is now considered a demon and in some orthodox Jewish homes it's tradition to sprinkle water in the corner of the walls to "rid the Demon Lilith."

A few years after I learned this, I remember hearing about the "Lilith Fair" which were concerts consisting entirely of women singers (mostly lesbian). They chose the name because Lilith is considered the fist feminist.

The more you know.... 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,492]

Just want to point out that Worms wasn’t attempting to have a conversation here. He was just looking to antagonize Christians during Holy Week. Liberals like to do such things,  but they wouid never do it to any other religion. Christians aren’t the reason you have to take your shoes off at the airport.  

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6 hours ago, fandandy said:

His entire point was that the message was lost.  He is dealing with a bunch of Jews.  They are inherently nefarious.  Time has proven this to be a fact.  He was saying, you guys have this entire message wrong.  He pointed put out with balls of steel how much they had it wrong.  They were embarrassed and hated him for it.  

Faith is faith.  It is that simple.  You believe or you do not.  I personally don't care where anyone else ends up for eternity.  I am a selfish sinful bastard but if you don't mind, say hello to the debbil for me.

Jews are inherently nefarious.  Races shouldn't be mixed.  Bringing blacks to America was good for them. China should attack Taiwan.

Man you're a real treat.

[Casual Observer 597]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Just want to point out that Worms wasn’t attempting to have a conversation here. He was just looking to antagonize Christians during Holy Week. Liberals like to do such things,  but they wouid never do it to any other religion. Christians aren’t the reason you have to take your shoes off at the airport.  

That's why I asked what his religious upbringing was and why he didn't answer.

[edjr 6,608]

is Jesus still alive? "were" 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,492]

13 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

That's why I asked what his religious upbringing was and why he didn't answer.

Exactly. It’s so played out, this Christian bashing. One of the Most immoral countries on earth, full of violence, greed and Vice and these dikheads think Christians are the ones having the negative influence. Look at our leaders for gods sake. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

9 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

I took a religious history course in college. Mega-weird professor. 

In any case, he once talked about "Lilith" who was Adam's first wife before Eve, according to early Hebrew bibles.  Lilith was a dominate woman who among other things - wanted to be on top during sex. She eventually left the Garden of Eden because she refused to be subservient to Adam. Lilith is now considered a demon and in some orthodox Jewish homes it's tradition to sprinkle water in the corner of the walls to "rid the Demon Lilith."

A few years after I learned this, I remember hearing about the "Lilith Fair" which were concerts consisting entirely of women singers (mostly lesbian). They chose the name because Lilith is considered the fist feminist.

The more you know.... 

Interesting stuff

Is that where Fraser‘s ex wife Lilith came from? 

[Mookz 1,349]

12 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

I took a religious history course in college. Mega-weird professor. 

In any case, he once talked about "Lilith" who was Adam's first wife before Eve, according to early Hebrew bibles.  Lilith was a dominate woman who among other things - wanted to be on top during sex. She eventually left the Garden of Eden because she refused to be subservient to Adam. Lilith is now considered a demon and in some orthodox Jewish homes it's tradition to sprinkle water in the corner of the walls to "rid the Demon Lilith."

A few years after I learned this, I remember hearing about the "Lilith Fair" which were concerts consisting entirely of women singers (mostly lesbian). They chose the name because Lilith is considered the fist feminist.

The more you know.... 

Well, I uhh, let's not be so hasty to judge, here.  Would you happen to have her email?