listen2me 23 1,873 Posted May 3, 2022 If there was anything I am fine with liberals doing, it is aborting their babies. Early term of course. At same time I also like anything that is left up to individual states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted May 3, 2022 One upside is that this will further help facilitating the self-sorting of federalism, consolidate leftoids into blue states, where they will only be able to fock over themselves/each other. < ----California, Oregon, and Washington are that way New York, New Jersey, and Massachusetts are that way -----> Go! Just be sure to cancel your voter registration first, a$$holes. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 3, 2022 9 hours ago, cyclone24 said: My opinion would be I have access to all sorts of contraceptives unlike folks back in the 70s when this Supreme Court decision was made had and I still screwed up and that I shouldn’t penalize a child with his life for it. I can’t fathom having a position where you kill a child and still try to come off as the good person Well lah dee dah. Not all teenagers have jobs to afford contraception. Not all teenagers have access to pharmacies or even doctors or even have healthcare. This is why I support high schools being a place for teenagers to get free condoms. I suggested that my niece be taken to an ob/gyn so she can get checked out and given birth control at 15 and my family freaked. Most parents don’t want to accept that their kids will be sexually active. Not all parents can afford to give their kids an allowance so they can privately purchase contraception. I’d rather we strengthen birth control options than strengthen abortion rights. But, let’s not pretend young people are responsible humans. Heck, old people aren’t responsible either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, peenie said: Well lah dee dah. Not all teenagers have jobs to afford contraception. Not all teenagers have access to pharmacies or even doctors or even have healthcare. It would be nice to avoid the abortion good/bad debate and focus causes for need of abortion. But honestly, I don't think the argument that contraception of too expensive or not available holds any water at all. The people who don't use it aren't not using it because it's too expensive or hard to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, TimmySmith said: It would be nice to avoid the abortion good/bad debate and focus causes for need of abortion. But honestly, I don't think the argument that contraception of too expensive or not available holds any water at all. The people who don't use it aren't not using it because it's too expensive or hard to get. Well…. I’m going to agree that today is not yesterday. Today we’ve got Amazon if you don’t live near CVS. When I was younger there was neither. Also, we didn’t have the choices of protection that are available today. I still think we need to expand and ease access to birth control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,472 Posted May 3, 2022 So the crew that thinks there are 60 genders, can’t define what a woman is unless you’re a biologist, and claim that men can menstruate are now going to tell me when life begins? Pass. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, peenie said: I still think we need to expand and ease access to birth control. Some will say this no matter how accessible. There is an element of personal responsibility that has to be present in all things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,550 Posted May 3, 2022 11 hours ago, peenie said: I wish you all could get pregnant. Let’s see your opinions then… 11 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: Boom. Mine wouldn't change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,472 Posted May 3, 2022 If you have a tattoo you can afford birth control. Nose ring too 2 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,550 Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, peenie said: Not all teenagers have access to pharmacies or even doctors or even have healthcare. Yes they do. I was 15 and my girlfriend was 16 when she got pregnant with my son. Both her and my son were immediately eligible for welfare (healthcare), that's regardless of what state you're in. Now, it turned out that she wasn't in the end because her dad's insurance covered her, but she was eligible if necessary. The child is always eligible until both parents are at least 18 and graduated from high school. At that point, they must re-apply. So, healthcare is absolutely available to teenagers... and its FREE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,461 Posted May 3, 2022 This move is manna from heaven for the Democratic Party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, MDC said: This move is manna from heaven for the Democratic Party. The hype may be manna from heaven. We don't know anything yet. If it turns out this is nothing, I suppose it will be another lie you are willing to ignore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,461 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, TimmySmith said: The hype may be manna from heaven. We don't know anything yet. If it turns out this is nothing, I suppose it will be another lie you are willing to ignore. I didn’t start the thread, chuckles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted May 3, 2022 The after morning pill and a Gatorade are only about $60. If teenagers can’t afford that then they shouldn’t be risking it. That’s like gambling. If you can’t afford to lose then you shouldn’t be playing. Common sense ppl. Use it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, MDC said: I didn’t start the thread, chuckles. You posts consider it a done deal, cuck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 3, 2022 52 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Yes they do. I was 15 and my girlfriend was 16 when she got pregnant with my son. Both her and my son were immediately eligible for welfare (healthcare), that's regardless of what state you're in. Now, it turned out that she wasn't in the end because her dad's insurance covered her, but she was eligible if necessary. The child is always eligible until both parents are at least 18 and graduated from high school. At that point, they must re-apply. So, healthcare is absolutely available to teenagers... and its FREE. You are talking about AFTER the fact. She got welfare after pregnancy, not before. Look at your own life! You got her pregnant, how and why? You were young and didn't have easy access to condoms. Were condoms at your high school? Did you have a job? Was she on the pill? Just look at your own circumstance and remember that your desire for sex and intimacy was far more immediate than getting a job so you can afford to buy condoms at the local pharmacy. The ghetto is NOT the suburbs. CVS and Walgreens isn't on every corner like it is in middle and upper class neighborhoods and surely not in rural areas. Consider that 50% of abortions are performed on poor women. It's not behavior but access to contraception and healthcare. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,472 Posted May 3, 2022 Planned parenthood gives out free condoms. So does almost every county health department. You can get them delivered for free. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Planned parenthood gives out free condoms. So does almost every county health department. You can get them delivered for free. County health department....where the heck is that??? High schools should have them in every bathroom in a barrel or dispenser for kids to grab if they want for free. A kid is not going to go to state building for condoms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,472 Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, peenie said: County health department....where the heck is that??? I assume in your case Fulton county? You can always use the internet to look it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I assume in your case Fulton county? You can always use the internet to look it up. Stop it. That is a ridiculous for a teen who doesn't have a car. Who goes to state buildings for condoms, that's silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,287 Posted May 3, 2022 1 hour ago, TimmySmith said: You posts consider it a done deal, cuck. It's been a done deal since Barrett-Comey and SCOTUS accepting the MIssissippi case. ETA: Only way it's not a done deal is if the leaked draft causes a fence sitting justice to switch votes because of public outcry. Maybe Kavanaugh, I don't see Thomas, Barrett, Gorsuch budging. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,472 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, peenie said: Stop it. That is a ridiculous for a teen who doesn't have a car. Who goes to state buildings for condoms, that's silly. I said you can get them delivered. Just a few clicks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,618 Posted May 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, peenie said: You are talking about AFTER the fact. She got welfare after pregnancy, not before. Look at your own life! You got her pregnant, how and why? You were young and didn't have easy access to condoms. Were condoms at your high school? Did you have a job? Was she on the pill? Just look at your own circumstance and remember that your desire for sex and intimacy was far more immediate than getting a job so you can afford to buy condoms at the local pharmacy. The ghetto is NOT the suburbs. CVS and Walgreens isn't on every corner like it is in middle and upper class neighborhoods and surely not in rural areas. Consider that 50% of abortions are performed on poor women. It's not behavior but access to contraception and healthcare. How about don't be a focking wh0re and get pregnant when you're a teenager. Wear a runner or get birth control, it isn't hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,461 Posted May 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: You posts consider it a done deal, cuck. As does the OP and every other post here, you mewling phaggit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,915 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said: How about don't be a focking and get pregnant when you're a teenager. How about realize that your statement is not reasonable. Kids have sex. It's a natural phenomena. Europeans don't have a problem with teen pregnancy because they don't pretend kids aren't sexual beings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,472 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, peenie said: Stop it. That is a ridiculous for a teen who doesn't have a car. Who goes to state buildings for condoms, that's silly. So they will be able to get to the abortion clinic without a car but not within the county they live to get to the health department? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,618 Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, peenie said: How about realize that your statement is not reasonable. Kids have sex. It's a natural phenomena. Yeah I lost my virginity when I was 14, never had a pregnancy scare. This sh!t isn't nearly as complicated as you all make it out to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,550 Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, peenie said: You are talking about AFTER the fact. She got welfare after pregnancy, not before. Look at your own life! You got her pregnant, how and why? You were young and didn't have easy access to condoms. Were condoms at your high school? Did you have a job? Was she on the pill? Just look at your own circumstance and remember that your desire for sex and intimacy was far more immediate than getting a job so you can afford to buy condoms at the local pharmacy. Wow... so much. I'll tackle them in order. She was eligible for welfare after she got pregnant, but that's only because her dad's insurance covered her. After my son was born, he was on welfare until I was 18. He had free medical coverage for almost 2 years. Yes, I got her pregnant because we liked having sex and it was fun. I had very easy and cheap access to condoms. There was a Wawa (I know you know about them), literally 8 blocks from my house. I could've gotten a condom for $2... or a 12 back for $10. Not that hard to come by. No, condoms were not readily available at school at the time. But as I said, all I had to do was walk 8 blocks to get one... or walk down the hall into my parents' room and steal one of my dad's. Condoms were (are), VERY EASY to come by. No, I did not have a job, I was 15. Yes. She was on vacation and while there, ran out. No, we were just reckless. As I said, condoms were readily available and not that expensive. It was entirely our stupid fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,550 Posted May 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, peenie said: County health department....where the heck is that??? High schools should have them in every bathroom in a barrel or dispenser for kids to grab if they want for free. A kid is going to go to state building for condoms. 15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I assume in your case Fulton county? You can always use the internet to look it up. https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/sexual-health/free-condoms Not that hard to find them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted May 3, 2022 It all comes down to decision making. Good parenting can help but ultimately it's up to the kids to make the right choice. When in the moment, at that age, they are not always in the right state of mind and they make poor decisions. That will never change. This is a subject that I don't think is simply black or white. There's a lot of gray area. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,237 Posted May 3, 2022 12 hours ago, iam90sbaby said: Why? State rights > Fed Exactly the way it was meant to be. I just want to end the pretense that a bunch of idiots doing idiot stuff is an insurrection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,472 Posted May 3, 2022 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: It all comes down to decision making. Good parenting can help but ultimately it's up to the kids to make the right choice. When in the moment, at that age, they are not always in the right state of mind and they make poor decisions. That will never change. This is a subject that I don't think is simply black or white. There's a lot of gray area. So mostly kids get abortions? What’s the breakdown? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted May 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, peenie said: You are talking about AFTER the fact. She got welfare after pregnancy, not before. Look at your own life! You got her pregnant, how and why? You were young and didn't have easy access to condoms. Were condoms at your high school? Did you have a job? Was she on the pill? Just look at your own circumstance and remember that your desire for sex and intimacy was far more immediate than getting a job so you can afford to buy condoms at the local pharmacy. The ghetto is NOT the suburbs. CVS and Walgreens isn't on every corner like it is in middle and upper class neighborhoods and surely not in rural areas. Consider that 50% of abortions are performed on poor women. It's not behavior but access to contraception and healthcare. Money? Haven't you heard? You can just go steal things you **need** now? Money is of no concern when talking about items at Walgreens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,237 Posted May 3, 2022 12 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said: It would be an attack on Democracy. This court was fairly and squarely appointed, and I'm not going to whine about its composition. I don't like it, but this is how our country works. I prefer balance. But if morons lay seige to the Supreme Court, it would make hypocrites out of anyone who whines about that while still minimizing the Jan. 6 insurrection and rolling in the BLM/Antifa crap from summer 2020 as a deflection tool. You condemn both or neither. We can agree to disagree.. It would not be an attack on Democracy. The people have the right to demonstrate if they want, and if they trespass or damage or whatever, be held fully accountable. We really need to stop with the threat to Democracy excrement. Therefore, let them protest, and if some of them get out of hand, hold them accountable. It can be done without the needless grandstanding., 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,307 Posted May 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Yeah I lost my virginity when I was 14, never had a pregnancy scare. This sh!t isn't nearly as complicated as you all make it out to be. NTTAWWT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted May 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So mostly kids get abortions? What’s the breakdown? I didn't say that. I was just added on to the current conversation about high school kids. What is it with you and this need to add stupid comments like this? Do you get the shakes if you don't try and derail a thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted May 3, 2022 AWESOME. baby killing is evil. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,472 Posted May 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: I didn't say that. I was just added on to the current conversation about high school kids. What is it with you and this need to add stupid comments like this? Do you get the shakes if you don't try and derail a thread? Well the whole concern seems to be about kids. Why can’t you just answer the question? You appear to know about the issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 3, 2022 Obvious legal issues here, if any of this is actually true. We'd have to consider SCOTUS impeachments, that could get interesting. Put me in the camp of continuing to allow liberals to murder as many of their offspring as they want. I have completely flipped on this topic. It's not an issue with my morality if you want to murder your offspring because of poor decision making. In a perfect world, this should absolutely be a state's rights issue, just as the founding fathers intended but, I'm willing to make an exception on this one. Kill as many liberal babies as possible, the country will be better for it. It's also amazing how good we are at biology all of the sudden, so that's a nice thing to see as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted May 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Well the whole concern seems to be about kids. Why can’t you just answer the question? You appear to know about the issue. Always a smart ass. I didn't say it was mostly kids so why would I have a break down. I have opinions on the subject just like everyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites