TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 4, 2023 33 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: That's true. They also don't care about laws and restrictions, so why do people want to punish law abiding citizens? I think we’re talking about two different problems here. Yes, gun violence as a whole is driven by the inner cities and new gun control regulations likely won’t have much impact on that. However I thought most school shootings are committed using legally obtained weapons? So in that sense I would think more in depth background checks for purchases should help, and wouldn’t really be punishing law-abiding citizens. Banning certain types of guns (which yes would need to be specifically defined) gets a little trickier but could help limit some of the damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted April 4, 2023 11 hours ago, jerryskids said: If so, we had a good run as a country. Congrats i guess. Guns being the #1 killer of kids is success to you? If the next generation repeals and replaces the 2nd amendment, THAT would be a win. The GOP could put in some common-sense restrictions, but they keep loosening laws instead. One of them tried to explain it to school kids: How in the world does this guy think that’s a good message to deliver? The GOP seems to have decided they will simply give up on winning votes from the next generation. I know young voter turnout is low, but every 4 years those younger voters move into higher age brackets, and their chosen party will stick in most cases. It’s not looking good for the GOP’s future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,311 Posted April 4, 2023 Locked doors AND teachers were armed. How could this have happened! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,050 Posted April 4, 2023 51 minutes ago, dogcows said: Guns being the #1 killer of kids is success to you? If the next generation repeals and replaces the 2nd amendment, THAT would be a win. The GOP could put in some common-sense restrictions, but they keep loosening laws instead. One of them tried to explain it to school kids: How in the world does this guy think that’s a good message to deliver? The GOP seems to have decided they will simply give up on winning votes from the next generation. I know young voter turnout is low, but every 4 years those younger voters move into higher age brackets, and their chosen party will stick in most cases. It’s not looking good for the GOP’s future. You keep repeating the DNC Glory Hole Talking Point that guns are the #1 killer of kids. They aren't and by a longshot. So, yeah, GFY you propagandist POS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: You keep repeating the DNC Glory Hole Talking Point that guns are the #1 killer of kids. They aren't and by a longshot. So, yeah, GFY you propagandist POS. C'mon man, think of the 19 year olds... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,290 Posted April 4, 2023 31 minutes ago, MDC said: Locked doors AND teachers were armed. How could this have happened! You can learn a lot from not just reading the headline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, Reality said: C'mon man, think of the 19 year olds... 19 year olds aren't kids. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 4, 2023 37 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: You keep repeating the DNC Glory Hole Talking Point that guns are the #1 killer of kids. They aren't and by a longshot. So, yeah, GFY you propagandist POS. Yes they are. A kid is anyone under 18 right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,739 Posted April 4, 2023 1 hour ago, dogcows said: Guns being the #1 killer of kids is success to you? If the next generation repeals and replaces the 2nd amendment, THAT would be a win. The GOP could put in some common-sense restrictions, but they keep loosening laws instead. One of them tried to explain it to school kids: How in the world does this guy think that’s a good message to deliver? The GOP seems to have decided they will simply give up on winning votes from the next generation. I know young voter turnout is low, but every 4 years those younger voters move into higher age brackets, and their chosen party will stick in most cases. It’s not looking good for the GOP’s future. State reps are often idiots; Arizona has more than its share. We pay ours like a nickel, and sometimes you get what you pay for. As for 2A being repealed, like I said, it was a good run. Our country made it where it is on the concept of Chesterton's fence, and it has served us well until recently, when you and a bunch of like-minded teenage girls on Tumblr decided you know better than the collective wisdom of our elders. We're raising a generation of children to not learn what a boy or girl is, to hate their country and its history, to think everyone is out to get them and every slight is the worst thing in the world, to complain rather than push through adversity. Boys in particular are emasculated in this environment. They can take away their own guns, but that doesn't address these problems. Good luck, comrade. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,664 Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: State reps are often idiots; Arizona has more than its share. We pay ours like a nickel, and sometimes you get what you pay for. As for 2A being repealed, like I said, it was a good run. Our country made it where it is on the concept of Chesterton's fence, and it has served us well until recently, when you and a bunch of like-minded teenage girls on Tumblr decided you know better than the collective wisdom of our elders. We're raising a generation of children to not learn what a boy or girl is, to hate their country and its history, to think everyone is out to get them and every slight is the worst thing in the world, to complain rather than push through adversity. Boys in particular are emasculated in this environment. They can take away their own guns, but that doesn't address these problems. Good luck, comrade. Quit arguing about transformers and make your EdEx pick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,739 Posted April 4, 2023 1 minute ago, bostonlager said: Quit arguing about transformers and make your EdEx pick. I did, go see my post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,664 Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, jerryskids said: I did, go see my post. See that now. My bad, buddy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,050 Posted April 4, 2023 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: 19 year olds aren't kids. HTH. Now do abortions!!! Anyone under 18, right? So, yeah, guns look pretty tame to those numbers! Abortions BY FAR are the #1 killer of kids. Next would be viruses/cancer/etc.. Guns are pretty low on the list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Now do abortions!!! Anyone under 18, right? So, yeah, guns look pretty tame to those numbers! Abortions BY FAR are the #1 killer of kids. Next would be viruses/cancer/etc.. Guns are pretty low on the list. A fetus isn't a kid. HTH Link to viruses/cancer being higher than guns? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,050 Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: A fetus isn't a kid. HTH Link to viruses/cancer being higher than guns? Yes, it is. HTH. Anyone every hear of a 6 month old fetus? 4 month old fetus? GTFO with your made-up-to-make-me-feel-better-that-I'm-not-killing-children excuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Yes, it is. HTH. Anyone every hear of a 6 month old fetus? 4 month old fetus? GTFO with your made-up-to-make-me-feel-better-that-I'm-not-killing-children excuses. How many abortions per year are at 6+ months in the US? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,050 Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: How many abortions per year are at 6+ months in the US? Have to move the goalposts to get to the numbers you want? Abortions per year in the US Alone: 620K. So, yeah, "gun deaths" pale in comparison. You don't even get an "A" for effort with your weak-sauce attempt at moving the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Have to move the goalposts to get to the numbers you want? Abortions per year in the US Alone: 620K. So, yeah, "gun deaths" pale in comparison. You don't even get an "A" for effort with your weak-sauce attempt at moving the line. You're the one that said 6 months. And actually that is in line with my consistent opinion of when abortion should be illegal. According to this, 0.31% of abortions occur at 24 weeks or later - https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/04/raw-data-abortions-by-week-of-pregnancy/ 0.31% of 620k = 1,922. So looks like a couple hundred more than gun deaths, but not "pales in comparison" or "BY FAR" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,050 Posted April 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: You're the one that said 6 months. And actually that is in line with my consistent opinion of when abortion should be illegal. According to this, 0.31% of abortions occur at 24 weeks or later - https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/04/raw-data-abortions-by-week-of-pregnancy/ 0.31% of 620k = 1,922. So looks like a couple hundred more than gun deaths, but not "pales in comparison" or "BY FAR" I didn't qualify "6 months or older", you dipshiat. That's you making something up and arguing that I said that. And even if that was the case, I also said "4 months" too but somehow you completely ignored that to get to the numbers you want, but it's really irrelevant. I was crushing your weak argument that a baby is a fetus until it's born. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: I was crushing your weak argument that a baby is a fetus until it's born. It is though... You're the one moving the focking goalposts by making a thread about a school shooting into one about abortion... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,050 Posted April 4, 2023 Just now, TimHauck said: It is though... You're the one moving the focking goalposts by making a thread about a school shooting into one about abortion... It's not. What planet you on? When you come back to earth, we'll talk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted April 5, 2023 5 hours ago, KSB2424 said: Manifesto? I was going to ask why you care so much what a mentally ill insane person has to say, then I remembered where you get your news and who you vote for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,290 Posted April 5, 2023 5 hours ago, KSB2424 said: Manifesto? It’s pretty obvious that the leftists don’t want what’s in there getting out. So they are just putting distance between the event. Trans and others get protection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted April 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: I was going to ask why you care so much what a mentally ill insane person has to say, then I remembered where you get your news and who you vote for. Such a silly response, how are these things normally handled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,311 Posted April 5, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 12:58 PM, listen2me 23 said: Kids get shot and the GC quickly runs to post throw away political lines. Never change GC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,397 Posted April 6, 2023 A possible school shooting/attack was stopped before it happened recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted April 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: A possible school shooting/attack was stopped before it happened recently. Good, I'm glad they took the threat seriously and were able to prevent it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,899 Posted April 7, 2023 On 4/4/2023 at 10:43 AM, EternalShinyAndChrome said: You keep repeating the DNC Glory Hole Talking Point that guns are the #1 killer of kids. They aren't and by a longshot. So, yeah, GFY you propagandist POS. Children and teens are more likely to die by guns than anything else https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/health/us-children-gun-deaths-dg/index.html#:~:text=Guns are the leading cause,gun-related incidents that year. Tell me how my ass taste Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: Children and teens are more likely to die by guns than anything else https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/health/us-children-gun-deaths-dg/index.html#:~:text=Guns are the leading cause,gun-related incidents that year. Tell me how my ass taste The GC will just say you have to take out suicides because those shouldn't count towards the numbers, and they will ignore more stats and claim if they didn't have a gun they would have died by suicide anyway. Of course neither party does jack about mental illness despite blaming it on everything and saying it's a core problem, so there's that too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,290 Posted April 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Children and teens are more likely to die by guns than anything else https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/health/us-children-gun-deaths-dg/index.html#:~:text=Guns are the leading cause,gun-related incidents that year. Tell me how my ass taste What do you think should be done? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,949 Posted April 7, 2023 10 hours ago, GutterBoy said: Children and teens are more likely to die by guns than anything else https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/health/us-children-gun-deaths-dg/index.html#:~:text=Guns are the leading cause,gun-related incidents that year. Tell me how my ass taste Now do just children's deaths instead of kids + adults. And then remove gang shootings because that's 100% a liberal problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,909 Posted April 7, 2023 46 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: And then remove gang shootings because that's 100% a liberal problem. Gutter Boy forgot those are his people to Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 7, 2023 9 hours ago, seafoam1 said: Now do a luat of children deaths instead of kids + adults. And then remove gang shootings because that's 100% a liberal problem. So don’t count gang shootings, but count fetuses, got it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,949 Posted April 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So don’t count gang shootings, but count fetuses, got it Fetuses = kids = living beings. Gang shootings = liberal run cities = your problem. Guns don't kill people. Guns are not living things. Kids are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Fetuses = kids = living beings. Gang shootings = liberal run cities = your problem. Guns don't kill people. Guns are not living things. Kids are. Peefoam doesn’t think children in gangs are living things, what a POS 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,949 Posted April 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Peefoam doesn’t think children in gangs are living things, what a POS Dlckhead Timmy thinks people who kill other people are good living things. What a POS. I hope you're next Timmy instead of someone who thinks killing is bad. In the mean time I'm sure you will be standing on the outside of child killing clinics with your cheerleader skirt on doing a happy dance. And really what I said was, take gang killing numbers out because that is all on the liberals. Your fault. Learn how to read peewee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted April 7, 2023 The Kentucky swimmer decided to speak out saying Lia Thomas shouldn’t be swimming agains girls. This is how she is treated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,754 Posted April 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Dlckhead Timmy thinks people who kill other people are good living things. What a POS. I hope you're next Timmy instead of someone who thinks killing is bad. In the mean time I'm sure you will be standing on the outside of child killing clinics with your cheerleader skirt on doing a happy dance. And really what I said was, take gang killing numbers out because that is all on the liberals. Your fault. Learn how to read peewee. Aren’t abortions “on the liberals”? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 2,949 Posted April 7, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: Aren’t abortions “on the liberals”? Apparently not if you look at most of the conservative posters on this site. I guess you are proud enough to want to take full credit for those killings too. Feel free sicko. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites