Transgender Slaughters 3 Kids and 3 Adults at Christian Elementary School in Nashville

[dogcows 1,030]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

How long do you think it takes someone to shoot out a glass door and walk though it?

Gotta love how the GOP’s response to the shootings is “better doors.”

Real men of genius.

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2 hours ago, dogcows said:

Gotta love how the GOP’s response to the shootings is “better doors.”

Real men of genius.

It's a better idea than infringing on the rights of millions of Americans because a few leftist lunatics feel like killing kids because their feelings got hurt. 

 

[jerryskids 6,825]

5 hours ago, dogcows said:

Perhaps the society also affects its laws, and then the laws affect society afterwards… a bit of a cycle. Obtaining a permit for a gun for self-defense is not allowed in Finland. Maybe knowing that you can’t solve disputes by pulling out a gun encourages a more peaceful and happy nation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Finland

Unrelated to the gun debate, I found it interesting that despite the high level of “happiness,” there is some discontent and a rise in far right political activity.

Well sure, society and laws are intermingled.  Societies enact laws that reflect their culture.  Finns are socialistic, so they enact such laws.  And those laws drive more socialistic behaviors.

Also it does not surprise me that such a socialistic culture would have discontent at the rise of the far right.  It is the same as you are seeing here, with the increasing power of the far Left and the pushback against it.  It is why you see the pendulum swinging sometimes too far to the right with recent bills.

ETA:  I also found these interesting from your link:

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Nevertheless, no types of firearms are outright banned, and in principle a person can apply for a licence for any type of gun.

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Magazine capacity is not restricted nor is there regulation regarding other firearm accessories.

One might argue that factors like gun type and magazine capacity aren't correlated to school shootings.   

[dogcows 1,030]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Well sure, society and laws are intermingled.  Societies enact laws that reflect their culture.  Finns are socialistic, so they enact such laws.  And those laws drive more socialistic behaviors.

Also it does not surprise me that such a socialistic culture would have discontent at the rise of the far right.  It is the same as you are seeing here, with the increasing power of the far Left and the pushback against it.  It is why you see the pendulum swinging sometimes too far to the right with recent bills.

ETA:  I also found these interesting from your link:

One might argue that factors like gun type and magazine capacity aren't correlated to school shootings.   

One might argue that, but it’s a moot point when you look at how restricted firearms are overall in Finland. Semi-automatic weapons are very difficult to obtain since one must establish they are needed for hunting to get a permit. And you can’t carry them in public (openly or concealed).

https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/citation/quotes/2012

Also, Finland is a capitalist, not a socialist country. On a related note, I was not aware of a correlation between gun laws and socialism vs capitalism. Is there one?

https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2#:~:text=Finland is a thoroughly capitalist nation%3A Some people,access to food%2C clothing%2C shelter%2C and medical care.

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9 minutes ago, dogcows said:

One might argue that, but it’s a moot point when you look at how restricted firearms are overall in Finland. Semi-automatic weapons are very difficult to obtain since one must establish they are needed for hunting to get a permit. And you can’t carry them in public (openly or concealed).

https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/citation/quotes/2012

Also, Finland is a capitalist, not a socialist country. On a related note, I was not aware of a correlation between gun laws and socialism vs capitalism. Is there one?

https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2#:~:text=Finland is a thoroughly capitalist nation%3A Some people,access to food%2C clothing%2C shelter%2C and medical care.

Finland is also not very diverse. A lot of friction caused by differing beliefs and cultures aren’t present there to the extent they are here. 

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[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

Gotta love the reaction of the left. Protect the trans! 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Gotta love the reaction of the left. Protect the trans! 

You don't think trans people deserve protection?

[League Champion 1,911]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You don't think trans people deserve protection?

They are making the Trans Community out to be the victims, HOW??? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You don't think trans people deserve protection?

Same as everyone else. They aren’t being attacked. Asians are though. 

[jerryskids 6,825]

2 hours ago, dogcows said:

One might argue that, but it’s a moot point when you look at how restricted firearms are overall in Finland. Semi-automatic weapons are very difficult to obtain since one must establish they are needed for hunting to get a permit. And you can’t carry them in public (openly or concealed).

https://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/citation/quotes/2012

Also, Finland is a capitalist, not a socialist country. On a related note, I was not aware of a correlation between gun laws and socialism vs capitalism. Is there one?

https://www.businessinsider.com/finland-has-capitalist-economy-why-are-finns-so-much-happier-2020-2#:~:text=Finland is a thoroughly capitalist nation%3A Some people,access to food%2C clothing%2C shelter%2C and medical care.

I said socialistic, not socialist.  Their taxes for instances are among the highest in the world:  personal income, VAT, also corporate.

The more we have this discussion the more it proves my point:  things are fundamentally different in Finland, vs. your initial assertion that everything but guns is the same.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,121]

5 hours ago, dogcows said:

Gotta love how the GOP’s response to the shootings is “better doors.”

Real men of genius.

Huh?  Your response is to TAKE AWAY constitutional rights! 

Yeah, who is the "Real Men of Genius" here?  GTFO, you commie.

What other constitutional rights you want to take away while you're at it?

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[KSB2424 3,148]

Any word on the manifesto yet? 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

21 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Any word on the manifesto yet? 

Safely stored behind a corvette is my guess.

[dogcows 1,030]

On 4/2/2023 at 8:05 PM, jerryskids said:

I said socialistic, not socialist.  Their taxes for instances are among the highest in the world:  personal income, VAT, also corporate.

The more we have this discussion the more it proves my point:  things are fundamentally different in Finland, vs. your initial assertion that everything but guns is the same.

The next generation of kids coming up will be far more willing to restrict guns. They have to live in fear of being shot during math class, and are sick of it.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2023/04/03/covenant-school-protests-week-after-the-deadly-nashville-school-shooting/70076073007/

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Three Ten Dem legislators who participated in the Transurrection facing possible expulsion from the Tennessee House.  Good. 

[jerryskids 6,825]

46 minutes ago, dogcows said:

The next generation of kids coming up will be far more willing to restrict guns. They have to live in fear of being shot during math class, and are sick of it.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2023/04/03/covenant-school-protests-week-after-the-deadly-nashville-school-shooting/70076073007/

If so, we had a good run as a country.  Congrats i guess.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

8 hours ago, dogcows said:

The next generation of kids coming up will be far more willing to restrict guns. They have to live in fear of being shot during math class, and are sick of it.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/2023/04/03/covenant-school-protests-week-after-the-deadly-nashville-school-shooting/70076073007/

Yeah but by the time they can vote is just about the time they will be getting mugged. I’d say it will even out. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

This school shooting got buried quicker than any ever

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,121]

19 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

This school shooting got buried quicker than any ever

Sorry. Not newsworthy.  Shooter didn't fit the expected profile.

Shootings are only bad if they're done by white straight males.

[TimHauck 2,905]

56 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

This school shooting got buried quicker than any ever

The cabal planned the Trump arrest perfectly!

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Gun control?  Nope, shooting never happened, nothing to see here...

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

55 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Sorry. Not newsworthy.  Shooter didn't fit the expected profile.

Shootings are only bad if they're done by white straight males.

Wrong victims too. 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

It must be challenging for kids to return to the building where this happened.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

On 3/27/2023 at 12:43 PM, GutterBoy said:

Good thing Tennessee banned drag to protect the kids.

The monster you’ve been defending planned this for months. Before any law was passed. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

This school shooting got buried quicker than any ever

Isn't it the same every time.  There's about a week of heavy debate and then things move on.  Eventually there will be another school shooting and it will start over again.

[RLLD 4,246]

I would like to see a day of Democrat violence suspension, it would decrease gun violence by 90%......

[KSB2424 3,148]

Manifesto?

[TimHauck 2,905]

47 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Isn't it the same every time.  There's about a week of heavy debate and then things move on.  Eventually there will be another school shooting and it will start over again.

Yup.  Uvalde was longer because of how devastating the victim toll was, which caused more debate around things like the police response.  But this seems comparable in coverage to other ones

[TimHauck 2,905]

33 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I would like to see a day of Democrat violence suspension, it would decrease gun violence by 90%......

It’s cute that you think the people committing 90% of gun violence actually vote 

[RLLD 4,246]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It’s cute that you think the people committing 90% of gun violence actually vote 

It just precious that you did not even attempt to evade the fact that liberals are the source of violence 

[TimHauck 2,905]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It just precious that you did not even attempt to evade the fact that liberals are the source of violence 

Uh, my point is the people committing most of the violence don’t give a sh1t about politics

[RLLD 4,246]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Uh, my point is the people committing most of the violence don’t give a sh1t about politics

Perhaps, I might be willing to concede that point.  I would suggest that if they DID vote, 90% would vote Democrat. And why not? I mean you have Bragg in NYC creating criminals as a protected class, so yeah, the violent would naturally vote Democrat. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Uh, my point is the people committing most of the violence don’t give a sh1t about politics

That's true.  They also don't care about laws and restrictions, so why do people want to punish law abiding citizens?

[TimHauck 2,905]

7 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Perhaps, I might be willing to concede that point.  I would suggest that if they DID vote, 90% would vote Democrat. And why not? I mean you have Bragg in NYC creating criminals as a protected class, so yeah, the violent would naturally vote Democrat. 

More hypotheticals from the GC, but what else is new…

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

That's true.  They also don't care about laws and restrictions, so why do people want to punish law abiding citizens?

Doing something, no matter how irrelevant gives the feeling of accomplishment, of moving forward.  also, if what one does places blame on others then one can feel morally superior.  Its a heady, intoxicating combination. 

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Just now, Engorgeous George said:

Doing something, no matter how irrelevant gives the feeling of accomplishment, of moving forward.  also, if what one does places blame on others then one can feel morally superior.  Its a heady, intoxicating combination. 

The liberal way.

[RLLD 4,246]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

More hypotheticals from the GC, but what else is new…

Right. Ignoring the problem always helps, and later when it comes back to you....just blame someone else.  Lather, rinse, repeat......