Florida Moves to End Vaccine Mandates for Schoolchildren

[Maximum Overkill 2,181]

 

Florida Moves to End Vaccine Mandates for Schoolchildren

The state would be the first to scrap requirements that children be vaccinated 

Florida plans to become the first state to end all vaccine mandates, including for schoolchildren, rejecting a practice that public health experts have credited for decades with limiting the spread of infectious diseases.

Dr. Joseph A. Ladapo, the Florida surgeon general, made the announcement on Wednesday alongside Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican. Mr. DeSantis rose to national prominence during the coronavirus pandemic, and over time he has espoused increasingly anti-vaccine views.

“Who am I to tell you what your child should put in their body?” Dr. Ladapo, a vocal denigrator of vaccines, said to applause during an event on Wednesday in Valrico, Fla., near Tampa. “Your body is a gift from God.”

He added that the administration would be “working to end” all vaccine mandates. “Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery,” Dr. Ladapo said, without elaborating

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[weepaws 3,236]

It should be, who is he to tell parents what they must put in their children.  Liberal trump started this last time he was president 

[MDC 7,611]

Welcome back, polio!  

[peenie 1,935]

Just now, MDC said:

Welcome back, polio!  

My thoughts EXACTLY. 

[zsasz 369]

I get COVID vaccine apprehension....but this seems kind of stupid for the tried and true vaccinations.  

[Ron_Artest 1,769]

Our country is focked

[TheNewGirl 1,546]

I disagree with this. 

Covid vaccine, maybe. Make it optional like the flu vaccine. 

But the others that have been around for ages...no. We need to keep those illnesses at bay.

[5-Points 3,645]

If we'd stop letting 3rd world peasants into this country, we wouldn't have to be vaxxed against sh!t we ridded ourselves of a long time ago. 

[squistion 2,344]

SMH.

How many children will now die from measles, chicken pox, polio etc., as a result of ending vaccine this program?

[Maximum Overkill 2,181]

He's not banning them you Morons. Anyone can get vaccinated for anything they want. 

You Liberals robots couldn't wait to get a useless Covid vaccine. 

[Ron_Artest 1,769]

8 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

He's not banning them you Morons. Anyone can get vaccinated for anything they want. 

You Liberals robots couldn't wait to get a useless Covid vaccine. 

Why end the mandate?

[Strike 5,770]

it's a bad idea.  We should work on rebuilding the credibility of scientists so people trust them again, not eliminate something that has made our children and society much safer.

[edjr 6,702]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

it's a bad idea.  We should work on rebuilding the credibility of scientists so people trust them again, not eliminate something that has made our children and society much safer.

this. 

[BrahmaBulls 813]

19 minutes ago, squistion said:

SMH.

How many children will now die from measles, chicken pox, polio etc., as a result of ending vaccine this program?

None, drama queen

[BrahmaBulls 813]

6 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Why end the mandate?

My body my choice

[MDC 7,611]

Maybe appointing an anti-vax heroin addict head of DHS wasn’t such a good idea?  

[Maximum Overkill 2,181]

42 minutes ago, MDC said:

Maybe appointing an anti-vax heroin addict head of DHS wasn’t such a good idea?  

WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE! 

[Drizzay 730]

Culling the herd.

[Voltaire 5,375]

This is a terrible policy reversal and an over-reaction to the COVID vaccine situation. I've lived in Florida for 21 months now and in the next gubernatorial election, finding a Republican candidate in the primary who wants to return vax mandates will be a priority issue. 

[seafoam1 3,230]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

This is a terrible policy reversal and an over-reaction to the COVID vaccine situation. I've lived in Florida for 21 months now and in the next gubernatorial election, finding a Republican candidate who wants to return vax mandates will be a priority issue. 

My body my choice. No way I'll get a covid shot. 

[Ron_Artest 1,769]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This is a terrible policy reversal and an over-reaction to the COVID vaccine situation. I've lived in Florida for 21 months now and in the next gubernatorial election, finding a Republican candidate in the primary who wants to return vax mandates will be a priority issue. 

Good luck. This is the Frankenstein that you wanted.

[5-Points 3,645]

4 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This is a terrible policy reversal and an over-reaction to the COVID vaccine situation. I've lived in Florida for 21 months now and in the next gubernatorial election, finding a Republican candidate in the primary who wants to return vax mandates will be a priority issue. 

Why? As a parent, you're still able to consult with your pediatrician and decide what vaccines are appropriate for your children. 

 

[Mike Honcho 5,335]

1 hour ago, BrahmaBulls said:

None, drama queen

Yeah, only 1 unvaxxed kid died from measles in Texas this, screw it, roll the dice. 

[seafoam1 3,230]

3 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yeah, only 1 unvaxxed kid died from measles in Texas this, screw it, roll the dice. 

I thought he was talking COVID flu shot. Where did he say measles?  And I bet you don't want to have Trump crack down on crime in violent cities. Wanna roll the dice with that? We can compare numbers if you want. 

20 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This is a terrible policy reversal and an over-reaction to the COVID vaccine situation. I've lived in Florida for 21 months now and in the next gubernatorial election, finding a Republican candidate in the primary who wants to return vax mandates will be a priority issue. 

 

[Voltaire 5,375]

33 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Why? As a parent, you're still able to consult with your pediatrician and decide what vaccines are appropriate for your children. 

 

Diseases were a scourge of humanity, wiping us throughout history, until Jenner came along with his smallpox vaccine. Coming up with vaccines was one of the greatest developments in human history, Notice how all of these plagues have ((poof)) went away. Maybe not. Nobody alive today has an active memory of those times, the entire reason we overcame is because the vaccine regiment of full vaccination has been a smashing success. 

That kid over there has an allergic reaction to the vaccine. Meanwhile that kid's mom is dumb as a rock. We, the healthy, have a civic obligation to the sick, the elderly, and the children of morons to protect them as well. 

[5-Points 3,645]

21 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Diseases were a scourge of humanity, wiping us throughout history, until Jenner came along with his smallpox vaccine. Coming up with vaccines was one of the greatest developments in human history, Notice how all of these plagues have ((poof)) went away. Maybe not. Nobody alive today has an active memory of those times, the entire reason we overcame is because the vaccine regiment of full vaccination has been a smashing success. 

That kid over there has an allergic reaction to the vaccine. Meanwhile that kid's mom is dumb as a rock. We, the healthy, have a civic obligation to the sick, the elderly, and the children of morons to protect them as well. 

My bad. Tim broke my sarcasm meter and I haven't been able cipher it accurately since. 

[TimHauck 3,043]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

This is a terrible policy reversal and an over-reaction to the COVID vaccine situation. I've lived in Florida for 21 months now and in the next gubernatorial election, finding a Republican candidate in the primary who wants to return vax mandates will be a priority issue. 

You need to get rid of whacko Ladapo

[easilyscan 957]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

Welcome back, polio!  

George Carlin on why none of the kids in his neighborhood got polio.....lol

 

[Maximum Overkill 2,181]

7 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Good luck. This is the Frankenstein that you wanted.

Covid!!!!! Bodies will be piled up in the streets, warehouses will be morgues and 60% of the planet will die!!! 

Liberals  

[Sean Mooney 1,999]

13 hours ago, Voltaire said:

 

That kid over there has an allergic reaction to the vaccine. Meanwhile that kid's mom is dumb as a rock. We, the healthy, have a civic obligation to the sick, the elderly, and the children of morons to protect them as well. 

 

This is the key piece here that the dopes like MO and utilt99 and BrahamaBulls miss while they rush to their circle jerk of ignorance.

There are people who legitimately cannot get a vaccine for something because of a potential allergic reaction to the component that delivers the vaccine into the body- or some aspect of the vaccine in general. So someone who is able to get the vaccine but doesn't is now a danger to that former student because their parents (most likely mom) read some BS nonsense online and decided they are a doctor in between selling overpriced Scentsy wax melts to their neighbors. 

As a race of people we eradicated polio and smallpox and all that.....why are we inviting it back into society?

[Meglamaniac 663]

16 hours ago, squistion said:

SMH.

How many children will now die from measles, chicken pox, polio etc., as a result of ending vaccine this program?

12

[Horseman 2,621]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

This is the key piece here that the dopes like MO and utilt99 and BrahamaBulls miss while they rush to their circle jerk of ignorance.

There are people who legitimately cannot get a vaccine for something because of a potential allergic reaction to the component that delivers the vaccine into the body- or some aspect of the vaccine in general. So someone who is able to get the vaccine but doesn't is now a danger to that former student because their parents (most likely mom) read some BS nonsense online and decided they are a doctor in between selling overpriced Scentsy wax melts to their neighbors. 

As a race of people we eradicated polio and smallpox and all that.....why are we inviting it back into society?

Polio hasnt been eradicated. And when something is eradicated like smallpox then you don't need a vaccine.  We haven't required smallpox vaccines since the 1980s. 

Someone needs to go back to school.  

[HellToupee 1,949]

So much fear porn out there over this. You would think Florida is banning vaccines

[HellToupee 1,949]

14 hours ago, Voltaire said:

This is a terrible policy reversal and an over-reaction to the COVID vaccine situation. I've lived in Florida for 21 months now and in the next gubernatorial election, finding a Republican candidate in the primary who wants to return vax mandates will be a priority issue. 

Shaping up to be a race between Byron Donalds , Casey DeSantis or maybe John Morgan. I’m fine with any of them but like 

1-Donalds

2-Morgan 

3-DeSantis 

[Fnord 2,327]

13 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Diseases were a scourge of humanity, wiping us throughout history, until Jenner came along with his smallpox vaccine. Coming up with vaccines was one of the greatest developments in human history, Notice how all of these plagues have ((poof)) went away. Maybe not. Nobody alive today has an active memory of those times, the entire reason we overcame is because the vaccine regiment of full vaccination has been a smashing success. 

That kid over there has an allergic reaction to the vaccine. Meanwhile that kid's mom is dumb as a rock. We, the healthy, have a civic obligation to the sick, the elderly, and the children of morons to protect them as well. 

Well said. Smallpox has been eradicated. That's the only one. Anything else (with the possible exception of polio) can come back into populations that have not been vaccinated. 

Disease eradication and elimination

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Eradication of an infectious disease is declared when the disease is not found or transmitted anywhere in the world. The only human infectious disease to be eradicated through vaccination is smallpox. Polio is on the verge of being eradicated, with cases of the wild (not vaccine derived) strain only found in Central Asia. Rinderpest (a relative of measles that affected cattle) is the only animal disease to be eradicated through vaccination of cattle.

An infectious agent must fit several criteria to be eradicated. First, it must be easily detectable in the population. Smallpox caused a serious rash over the face and body, so people were identified and sent to isolation efficiently. People knew if they were exposed to a case, because they could see the disease when there was no laboratory test available, and those exposed were sent into quarantine. For those infectious diseases that do not have obvious physical manifestations, a highly precise laboratory test (with few false negatives) is needed. However, isolation and quarantine alone are not enough.

Second, the vaccine against the infectious agent must be highly effective and available to everyone at risk of contracting the disease. This guarantees most people getting the vaccine become immune to infection and/or disease, and that herd immunity is activated through vaccination of most of the population. For example, the effectiveness of the measles vaccine is around 99% in populations getting the two-dose series. That effectiveness drops for the whole population if a significant percentage of the population is not given the vaccine, triggering outbreaks.

Third, and closely associated with the second point, the public must accept the vaccine and get vaccinated. The vaccine could be highly effective, have an outstanding track record of safety, and be available at little to no cost to the entire population… But all that is meaningless toward eradication if enough people in the population will not get the vaccine. This is a big problem in the era of vaccine misinformation and disinformation spreading through online sources.

Finally, the infectious agent in question cannot be transmitted efficiently between animal species. For example, influenza is found in humans, birds, pigs, and other animals. In 2009, the H1N1 influenza pandemic happened when a strain jumped from pigs to humans and was able to be transmitted efficiently from person to person. Because of this, influenza is not a candidate for eradication, but it is a candidate for elimination if a universal influenza vaccine is developed.

Florida tripling down on stupid right now.

[NorthernVike 2,088]

14 hours ago, Voltaire said:

This is a terrible policy reversal and an over-reaction to the COVID vaccine situation. I've lived in Florida for 21 months now and in the next gubernatorial election, finding a Republican candidate in the primary who wants to return vax mandates will be a priority issue. 

I know I haven't been around much but, when did you abandon comrade Xi Jinping?  

 

Also welcome home.  Was there a thread about this? 

[thegeneral 3,345]

Very on brand, Florida.

[squistion 2,344]

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So much fear porn out there over this

Legitimate concerns over unvaccinated children dying or being infected with polio is now being labeled "fear porn" 

You can't make this stuff up 

[Meglamaniac 663]

How many of the skyscreamers in this thread actually live in FL.

I'm guessing zero

[Fnord 2,327]

9 minutes ago, Meglamaniac said:

How many of the skyscreamers in this thread actually live in FL.

I'm guessing zero

Is @Voltaire a skyscreamer?