wiffleball 4,647 Posted August 1, 2019 Most militia types that I know don't love their country. They love some b******* romanticize version of their country. moreover, the most likely end up shooting themselves or at least pissing themselves minifee face any sort of organized opposition. that aside, what would cause you to pick up your weapon and actually fire upon agents of the US government and or local government? Don't you say gun control. What specifically would they have to prohibit or regulate or whatever that would cause you to literally take up arms against your fellow Americans? Abortion? Illegal search and seizure? Land seizure? Repossessing your kids? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted August 1, 2019 Kids in cages. Fracking. Puzzy grabbing. Employer provided healthcare. This is why I put on my black shemagh every weekend and go punch Nazis at the playground. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,564 Posted August 1, 2019 President AOC presides over a Constitutional Convention where Bernie Sanders, George Soros, Kamala Harris , Al Sharpton, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Joe Bryant, Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon rewrite the Constitution. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted August 1, 2019 Leading up to the American Revolution, people who tried to ferment revolt kept looking for martyrs. The Boston Massacre was a classic example. Some guys protesting a court hearing, redcoats showed up and shot and killed some of them. The murdered were held up as martyrs of the revolution. In the civil war, electing Lincoln immediately led to armed revolt. The french revolution really got rolling out of food riots. The lack of food got the average joe ready for revolt. The arab spring in the 21st century was also food riots. But the common thread in ALL cases was loss of trust. People no longer trusted the system so it was overthrown. Which is what we're going thru today in the West. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted August 1, 2019 8 hours ago, wiffleball said: Most militia types that I know don't love their country. They love some b******* romanticize version of their country. moreover, the most likely end up shooting themselves or at least pissing themselves minifee face any sort of organized opposition. that aside, what would cause you to pick up your weapon and actually fire upon agents of the US government and or local government? Don't you say gun control. What specifically would they have to prohibit or regulate or whatever that would cause you to literally take up arms against your fellow Americans? Abortion? Illegal search and seizure? Land seizure? Repossessing your kids? Trespass. Stay the eff off my land. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted August 1, 2019 It would take a lot. Truth is that if there is violence it will get pretty ugly, if you have not had occasion to be in the presence of hard core organizes violence perhaps its easy to talk about it. But in reality, violence is a nasty business. I think i would be inclined to stay out of it, until it reached my doorstep, and then I do have an adequate assemblage to defend..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, riversco said: Leading up to the American Revolution, people who tried to ferment revolt kept looking for martyrs. The Boston Massacre was a classic example. Some guys protesting a court hearing, redcoats showed up and shot and killed some of them. The murdered were held up as martyrs of the revolution. In the civil war, electing Lincoln immediately led to armed revolt. The french revolution really got rolling out of food riots. The lack of food got the average joe ready for revolt. The arab spring in the 21st century was also food riots. But the common thread in ALL cases was loss of trust. People no longer trusted the system so it was overthrown. Which is what we're going thru today in the West. The foolish notion that people have though is once overthrown that it would be us who decide what it is replaced with, which is not the case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 995 Posted August 1, 2019 I really can't imagine something that would cause me to do this. Short of the government turning fully communist overnight. I simply don't care enough to fight the government. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,564 Posted August 1, 2019 Chief Justice Potatomayor gets four allies who routinely decide the Constitution is optional suggestions that can be freely overlooked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,465 Posted August 1, 2019 If they draw first blood, its on. May their version of jesus be with them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Chief Justice Potatomayor gets four allies who routinely decide the Constitution is optional suggestions that can be freely overlooked. The SC has 9, roly poly, femaleish, unmarried, 1st or 2nd generation Americans, from New York to decide what's best for the rest of us. 2 down so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Webtoed Porkbutt 155 Posted August 1, 2019 We have a revolution every 4 years. It's called elections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted August 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lil' Webtoed Porkbutt said: We have a revolution every 4 years. It's called elections. And lets keep this current revolution rolling for another 4 years because its MAGA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,564 Posted August 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, lod001 said: And lets keep this current revolution rolling for another 4 years because its MAGA. Get the wall built and buy time for Ruth Walking-Corpseburg, Stephan Breyer, and a bunch of liberal appeals court judges to leave the bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,568 Posted August 1, 2019 you don't want to mess with these arms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Webtoed Porkbutt 155 Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, edjr said: you don't want to mess with these arms If 5th graders revolt Edjr has that covered. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, RLLD said: It would take a lot. Truth is that if there is violence it will get pretty ugly, if you have not had occasion to be in the presence of hard core organizes violence perhaps its easy to talk about it. But in reality, violence is a nasty business. I think i would be inclined to stay out of it, until it reached my doorstep, and then I do have an adequate assemblage to defend..... Hopefully I'll still be able to telecommute during the revolution so that I don't have to burn any vacation hours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,092 Posted August 1, 2019 Re-instituting the 18 Amendment 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted August 1, 2019 11 hours ago, wiffleball said: Most militia types that I know don't love their country. They love some b******* romanticize version of their country. moreover, the most likely end up shooting themselves or at least pissing themselves minifee face any sort of organized opposition. that aside, what would cause you to pick up your weapon and actually fire upon agents of the US government and or local government? Don't you say gun control. What specifically would they have to prohibit or regulate or whatever that would cause you to literally take up arms against your fellow Americans? Abortion? Illegal search and seizure? Land seizure? Repossessing your kids? You hang around with militia types? New Black Panthers or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lil' Webtoed Porkbutt 155 Posted August 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Casual Observer said: You hang around with militia types? New Black Panthers or something. More likely a paint ball team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 3, 2019 In all honesty switching to the "popular vote" might do it. Several states have bills looking to award their electoral votes to the winner of the national popular vote. Essentially eliminating the self worth of their own electorate. That is scary stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted August 3, 2019 Taxing the top 1% at a rate of 90% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,384 Posted August 3, 2019 Trump not becoming King of America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 3, 2019 Anything that could eventually cause me to take up arms and revolt, would first cause me to gather my family up and simply move to another country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted August 3, 2019 45 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: Anything that could eventually cause me to take up arms and revolt, would first cause me to gather my family up and simply move to another country. Examples? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 3, 2019 Honestly, the thoughts of civil war are ridiculously premature. Americans are far too comfortable for that. People with stuff to lose don't go off into the woods and play soldier. Things would have to get a lot worse before that really becomes a problem. Small bands of wackos? Sure. Broad swaths of society. No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Examples? It’s kind of hard to come up with anything realistic. I guess if America decided to imprison all Muslims, or wipe that 1.8 billion people off the face of the earth, I’d consider us evil and get the hell out. Thats not a Muslim specific thing though. If we decided to imprison or exterminate any group, including those in the group that haven’t committed specific crimes. For example, I wouldn’t support imprisoning all white supremacists either. Believe what you want, and I’m fine with shaming you, but not taking away your freedom if you haven’t committed a crime. I just say Muslims in this example because a high percentage of people on this message board seem to openly support wiping them all off the face of the earth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 3, 2019 How many do you know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 3, 2019 The Democrats already have one up and rolling with their Antifa group. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted August 3, 2019 40 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: It’s kind of hard to come up with anything realistic. I guess if America decided to imprison all Muslims, or wipe that 1.8 billion people off the face of the earth, I’d consider us evil and get the hell out. Thats not a Muslim specific thing though. If we decided to imprison or exterminate any group, including those in the group that haven’t committed specific crimes. For example, I wouldn’t support imprisoning all white supremacists either. Believe what you want, and I’m fine with shaming you, but not taking away your freedom if you haven’t committed a crime. I just say Muslims in this example because a high percentage of people on this message board seem to openly support wiping them all off the face of the earth. 2-for-1? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted August 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: It’s kind of hard to come up with anything realistic. I guess if America decided to imprison all Muslims, or wipe that 1.8 billion people off the face of the earth, I’d consider us evil and get the hell out. Thats not a Muslim specific thing though. If we decided to imprison or exterminate any group, including those in the group that haven’t committed specific crimes. For example, I wouldn’t support imprisoning all white supremacists either. Believe what you want, and I’m fine with shaming you, but not taking away your freedom if you haven’t committed a crime. I just say Muslims in this example because a high percentage of people on this message board seem to openly support wiping them all off the face of the earth. How about a culture that treats women less inferior. Like your Muslim example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,384 Posted August 3, 2019 46 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: How about a culture that treats women less inferior. Like your Muslim example. Don't be a bigot. Forcing women to dress up in a shower curtain is empowering and brave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,564 Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Don't be a bigot. Forcing women to dress up in a shower curtain is empowering and brave. When the feminist/Islam intersectionality bullshit invariably explodes, I'm not sure which side to root for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 3, 2019 For a country that "hates" Muslims, we are doing a lousy job of taking away their rights. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Alias Detective said: How about a culture that treats women less inferior. Like your Muslim example. Are you asking if I’d leave the country if we started treating women better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,564 Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: Are you asking if I’d leave the country if we started treating women better? LOL. I'm thinking "less inferior" was a typo but it could be taken at face value if bostonlager had typed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted August 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, cbfalcon said: Are you asking if I’d leave the country if we started treating women better? Better than what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted August 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Voltaire said: LOL. I'm thinking "less inferior" was a typo but it could be taken at face value if bostonlager had typed it. Ahhh. I see my typo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted August 3, 2019 My ancestors fought for the South, so I'd be inclined to pick up arms if the south succeeds again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted August 3, 2019 4 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: Honestly, the thoughts of civil war are ridiculously premature. Americans are far too comfortable for that. Statistically, right wingers are not comfortable ..... with their own institutions. That's the problem. They distrust most everything they are told by official sources now. And it is absolutely without question a big enough of a problem to spark revolt. It also doesn't need to be a very large segment of the population. The overwhelming majority of colonists didn't want the Revolutionary War in the 1770s. But when 20-25% of the public wants a revolt.....you get a revolt. And once it gets rolling, events can quickly tilt public perception in favor of revolt. Basically your entire reasoning for why it won't happen (people are too comfortable, there are not enough people to spark it) is untrue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites