fandandy 3,313 Posted January 30, 2020 Quote The World Health Organization (WHO) said that, so far, most of those who have died from the virus had “underlying health conditions,” such as hypertension, diabetes or cardiovascular diseases, which weakened their immune systems. Of the reported cases, one quarter experienced severe disease symptoms. .So basically Americans are focked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted January 30, 2020 The cruise ship turned out negative, but why were people that have visited infected areas going on a cruise. After the people that caused the scare get healthy should they be locked up for their selfishness. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/italy-to-let-passengers-off-cruise-ship-after-virus-scare/ar-BBZtrNS My in-laws are on a cruise in the bahamas and they are of Chinese decent, i wonder if everyone avoided them today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,925 Posted January 30, 2020 https://news.yahoo.com/stranded-wuhan-foreigners-raise-call-help-virus-epicentre-062945815.html OK. F you China. I thought they were the new world super power etc etc etc. And yet, here we go again, everyone crying for the good ol' US to help. And stop asking Japan, they hate you. But why us? I can't see us begging China for help if we had the flu outbreak here. We would just handle it. Oh yeah also we do a better job of making sure our food markets are at least adhering to some standard of health and cleanliness. Eat it China..You caused this mess, we have to deal with it on our own now thanks to your lax controls, so fix it yet damn self. Rant over 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 937 Posted January 30, 2020 3 hours ago, jerryskids said: Anyone know specifically which 3M mask this is? My daughter has a weak immune system due to her Type 1 diabetes, I'd like to stock up. 3 hours ago, bandrus1 said: N95 rated.. and good luck finding them Just looked at the packaging N95 is correct,they were in the hardware/paint section at Wal-Mart for about $2.50 each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,270 Posted January 30, 2020 8 hours ago, fandandy said: The release might be/have been unintentional. Also, if ever used during a war I would assume that the country releasing the agent would have a vaccine for it. So kill everyone else in the world except for those in that country. Sounds like a great plan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,825 Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, nzoner said: Just looked at the packaging N95 is correct,they were in the hardware/paint section at Wal-Mart for about $2.50 each. Thanks. Ace was out and I expect similar from other stores so I bought 3Ms on Amazon a few minutes ago, but they were $6 each for 10. But, I'm close to a Walmart so i may stop in and try, more for the immediate availability (Amazon was next Wednesday, if they arrive) than the price. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted January 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Thanks. Ace was out and I expect similar from other stores so I bought 3Ms on Amazon a few minutes ago, but they were $6 each for 10. But, I'm close to a Walmart so i may stop in and try, more for the immediate availability (Amazon was next Wednesday, if they arrive) than the price. There was an article talking about counterfeit masks on Amazon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted January 31, 2020 Good excuse to watch Outbreak, great flick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted January 31, 2020 Something like over 60K die from the common cold in the United States a year. I'm not saying this is not a big deal but I do think it's being made into something it's likely not. It can kill people with weak immune systems. If it was killing super healthy people then yeah, that is a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,928 Posted January 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Something like over 60K die from the common cold in the United States a year. I'm not saying this is not a big deal but I do think it's being made into something it's likely not. It can kill people with weak immune systems. If it was killing super healthy people then yeah, that is a problem. Just to be clear Chinas government who don't give a fock about their people have pretty much shut their country down. Disney who love money more than any company closed Disney Land Shanghai. WHO has called a global emergency Russia has closed their boarder to China Extreme measures are taken if someone is even suspected of having this virus And you think this is the common cold? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: Thanks. Ace was out and I expect similar from other stores so I bought 3Ms on Amazon a few minutes ago, but they were $6 each for 10. But, I'm close to a Walmart so i may stop in and try, more for the immediate availability (Amazon was next Wednesday, if they arrive) than the price. Decent site for N95s. I think the shipping is pretty quick and I believe the warehouse is in San Diego. I accidentally bought a more expensive than necessary kind from there earlier (unless they had a restock since then). I noticed N95s were out of stock at the site I linked Volty yesterday (another janitorial supply co.) and in the midst of an oddly hectic day at work, having seen from yesterday on many sites how quickly they go out of stock, it just seemed like a prudent thing to do. But allotting 5 minutes to source and purchase something online was not the greatest for my wallet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted January 31, 2020 I don't know what I don't know. What I do know is right now, it hasn't killed that many. Nowhere near the common cold. If it starts getting over that number then yes. That is a problem. Right now it is not. Sorry, I live in reality and the world of rational thought processing. Guilty as charged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted January 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, naomi said: Decent site for N95s. I think the shipping is pretty quick and I believe the warehouse is in San Diego. I accidentally bought a more expensive than necessary kind from there earlier (unless they had a restock since then). I noticed N95s were out of stock at the site I linked Volty yesterday (another janitorial supply co.) and in the midst of an oddly hectic day at work, having seen from yesterday on many sites how quickly they go out of stock, it just seemed like a prudent thing to do. But allotting 5 minutes to source and purchase something online was not the greatest for my wallet. Going to give them a try see what happens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 It's killed a lot of people relative to confirmed cases. There's strong indication China isn't reporting accurate numbers. Reputable sources report crematoriums being overwhelmed, receiving non-ID'd bodies from hospitals. If the hospitals are too busy and full to do that piece right, then you know those people aren't counted. I can link to some of this stuff. It's apparently mutating in unexpected ways too Personally I'm not worried per se, I am open to info from all different angles because this situation especially calls for that. And you can only do what you can do. BUT, I had a weird sense several mornings ago, laying in bed, before it was the third highest priority story, that this was a "do" thing. Take action ahead. It was like an intuition/6th sense thing and mostly centered on making sure my parents get to a house in the family that's in a rural area. It could totally just be power of suggestion, BUT, it was also a "don't ignore me" sense, so not ignoring it. Sorta feel like a weirdo too but again, can't ignore it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,928 Posted January 31, 2020 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3525558 Findings: The estimation results based on likelihood and model analysis reveal that the control reproduction number may be as high as 6.47 (95% CI 5.71-7.23). R-0 = 6.47 Jesus no wonder they are shutting everything down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,307 Posted January 31, 2020 6 hours ago, bandrus1 said: WHO declares world health emergency We won’t get fooled again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, bandrus1 said: Going to give them a try see what happens Just logged in again. So the economical ones deliver 2/21 (backordered). The ones I got, as of now, deliver 2/3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted January 31, 2020 So one of the the human scumballs from Wuhan that came to Panzhihua had went to the new shopping mall, restaurants, gone shopping; she'd just been getting on and happy like nothing wass wrong, happy to be out of Wuhan, frolicking through town, putting the whole city at risk until she turned up with a fever. Focking dingb*tch needs a beatdown. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted January 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, naomi said: Just logged in again. So the economical ones deliver 2/21 (backordered). The ones I got, as of now, deliver 2/3. Same I got the vented ones on accident 2/4 Brother went 20 pack basic and got 2/24 Good thing is no charge till shipped so if this dies down just cancel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Voltaire said: So one of the the human scumballs from Wuhan that came to Panzhihua had went to the new shopping mall, restaurants, gone shopping; she'd just been getting on and happy like nothing wass wrong, happy to be out of Wuhan, frolicking through town, putting the whole city at risk until she turned up with a fever. Focking dingb*tch needs a beatdown. Something like 5 million ppl left Wuhan before the quarantine. That sh!t's prolly happened a lot. The next couple of weeks will give us a better idea of how horrified we should all be. It boggles my mind that we haven't stopped flights from China like a week ago. It's like watching a slow-motion train wreck and there's nothing you can do but sit here and shake your head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 Bandrus, if your brother is going to go to trouble to get some, he should make sure he gets a kind that's available now. He should cancel and redo, or just place a second active order. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted January 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, Voltaire said: So one of the the human scumballs from Wuhan that came to Panzhihua had went to the new shopping mall, restaurants, gone shopping; she'd just been getting on and happy like nothing wass wrong, happy to be out of Wuhan, frolicking through town, putting the whole city at risk until she turned up with a fever. Focking dingb*tch needs a beatdown. Yes, I agree completely. She either has to be completely stupid or incredibly selfish. Someone that would do that has no redeeming qualities and does not deserve even limited medical care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 Another problem with the backorder is that it likely means relying on China for fulfillment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted January 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, naomi said: Another problem with the backorder is that it likely means relying on China for the wholesale fulfillment. Exactly. I wish 60 Minutes would do a story this Sunday about where masks and Tyvek suits and all the other necessary PPE are made and ask Americans if they feel safe with this stuff produced overseas? I think it's something that needs to be discussed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,928 Posted January 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: Yes, I agree completely. She either has to be completely stupid or incredibly selfish. Someone that would do that has no redeeming qualities and does not deserve even limited medical care. Humanity in a nut shell Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted January 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You’re taking all the fun out of this man. Let the feckin tin foil fly!!!!!!!!!!!! This is ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, fandandy said: Exactly. I wish 60 Minutes would do a story this Sunday about where masks and Tyvek suits and all the other necessary PPE are made and ask Americans if they feel safe with this stuff produced overseas? I think it's something that needs to be discussed. I was thinking more about how the supply chain in this instance could break down. Go for what's in the retailer's warehouses now; don't rely on a backorder. But maybe there's that too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted January 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: Humanity in a nut shell The virtue signaling nut job libs will tell it's your fault. They have the answers to creating bliss in humanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,928 Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, naomi said: I was thinking more about how the supply chain in this instance could break down. Go for what's in the retailer's warehouses now; don't rely on a backorder. But maybe there's that too. Could break down? It's already broken. The masks are just to start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, shorepatrol said: Let the feckin tin foil fly!!!!!!!!!!!! This is ridiculous. ? ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted January 31, 2020 1 minute ago, naomi said: ? ? Throw that look out in 2 months when this is a distant memory like every other "scare". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted January 31, 2020 29 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: Yes, I agree completely. She either has to be completely stupid or incredibly selfish. Someone that would do that has no redeeming qualities and does not deserve even limited medical care. Where my head is, if I were to go to the US right now, PLEASE put us in quarantine for two weeks. Maybe that chick rode with the taxi driver or somebody that came in contact with her did. Even if it's eight degrees of separation, that's still eight degrees too many. I wouldn't want to go to my sister's house and put her family at risk. (In fairness everybody who gets on a bus or taxi has to wear a mask as do the drivers but these are supposed to be disposable one-time use mask that will likely have to last the whole focking time or until production catches up to demand). I could probably leave and take the kids, probably should, but my wife is a Chinese citizen and so is her mother and just sitting in an airport or getting on a plane full of Chinese people is a scary thought. We're in lockdown at home and not leaving the house except to shop. I'm a teacher and since school isn't in session, I have that convenience. How many of our neighbors have to go out every day? School is (still) scheduled to re-start February 15th. That's when we'll either start to lose money or put ourselves at risk. Fortunatly I live where the weather is wonderful. This is related to pneumonia and you don't normally get pneumonia in summer (but you can, I looked it up). Our highs are in the upper 60s (lows in the 40s) so we're close and it should already be warmer. By mid February, hopefully, it'll be in the 80s during the day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted January 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, naomi said: I was thinking more about how the supply chain in this instance could break down. Go for what's in the retailer's warehouses now; don't rely on a backorder. But maybe there's that too. There's definitely that too. Not this situation persay but imagine in the future a pandemic with an airborne pathogen. Do you think China with a population of 1.4 billion people is going to ship masks outside of their country? They will choose to let their ppl die to fulfill orders to the US? Hell no. I have no idea where this stuff is produced but that to me is news. Someone from one of the lettered networks should get off their nuts and actually investigate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, shorepatrol said: Throw that look out in 2 months when this is a distant memory like every other "scare". There's aspects of this that are different from scares in my memory. That being said, hopefully you are correct Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted January 31, 2020 Just now, naomi said: There's aspects of this that are different from scares in my memory. That being said, hopefully you are correct No, they're the same aspects. Focking media and China lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,150 Posted January 31, 2020 A small collection of the latest anti-viral technology https://imgur.com/gallery/0R46WuT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 356 Posted January 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, shorepatrol said: No, they're the same aspects. Focking media and China lol. The info I'm taking in is really composite. Lots of good Twitter sources, Chinese journalists, doctors, Johns Hopkins School of Public Health people, and just generally smart people from different fields. I don't think it traces back to the weird food market. It's probably a lab escape, which they were actually warned about. I think the origin may explain the initial days of the response from authorities. There's a video posted from a young man in Wuhan, the day after the lockdown went into place, explaining what things were like beforehand and then during. Definitely questionable. Calm, smart viral pathology knowledgeable docs are finding the properties of this virus remark worthy (remarkable) so far. I haven't seen anything from a major media source, save the Daily Mail and BBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,512 Posted January 31, 2020 Interesting op-ed I read earlier tonight. Seems to me pretty unbiased...errr makes sense to me https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/479581-how-worried-should-we-be-about-the-coronavirus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted January 31, 2020 Funny photoshop job of advice from WHO. At least I hope it's a joke... https://postimg.cc/HVRBZGpb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,605 Posted January 31, 2020 I blame Patrick Dempsey and a Monkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
