DESANTIS 2024!!! Ron DeSantis :wub:

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

DeSantis is certainly good at making his base happy and pissing off liberals. But can he win a national campaign with that strategy? Remains to be seen. 

[jerryskids 6,797]

38 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Or it could be what it’s always been about: people from the north retire to Florida. Not sure why it is suddenly political now. Yankees spring training in Florida is a huge draw because of all the New Yorkers that retire there.

I did some searching and found that United Van Lines has tracked this for decades. Top reasons for moving: retirement, being closer to family, or a new job.

https://www.unitedvanlines.com/newsroom/movers-study-2021

Interesting in their latest numbers: used to be 60% of people moved because of a new job. After COVID, that number is about 30%. I know a lot of people whose jobs are completely remote work now. Overall moving is down quite a bit from pre-pandemic levels. 

Thanks for sharing this data, lots of interesting trends to think about…

 

Or it could be that I was responding to Tim's asinine comment:

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People flee NY to California too. I suspect weather is a much more likely reason than politics. 

which implies that Cali is a comparable weather-driven destination location; objectively the weather is better than Florida unless you prefer humidity and bugs, plus it has nearby mountains for cooler weather.  Basically, objectively, Cali has the best weather in the nation.  Yet Cali is dead last in the migration list, despite awesome weather.  Also Cali is (so far) the #1 populated state, so it stands to reason that it would be on the high end of family draws from lesser populated states.

That leaves jobs from your list, which are leaving Cali in droves.  Arizona and Texas thank them for their incompetence, as many of them move here.  Now if we can just get the idiot Leftists to stop moving here and voting in the same crap which destroyed their previous state.   

[Strike 5,542]

More New Yorkers moved to Florida in 2022 than any year in history in staggering exodus

 

https://nypost.com/2023/01/19/more-new-yorkers-moved-to-florida-in-2022-than-any-year-in-history/

[craftsman 1,045]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

More New Yorkers moved to Florida in 2022 than any year in history in staggering exodus

 

https://nypost.com/2023/01/19/more-new-yorkers-moved-to-florida-in-2022-than-any-year-in-history/

When I lived in St. Pete the rich New Yorkers used to just come down to their second homes during winter months. Then they would leave in the summer. Those were some of the most unlikeable people in the country. Second only to Californians and some annoying folks from Colorado. 

[Reality 3,121]

Thorough beat down. At least he's now been educated.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,104]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

More New Yorkers moved to Florida in 2022 than any year in history in staggering exodus

 

https://nypost.com/2023/01/19/more-new-yorkers-moved-to-florida-in-2022-than-any-year-in-history/

That's bad news for Florida.  You think they're going to change their vote to GOP?  No f'n way.  Those are the very same people that voted their state to into a Commie sh#thole and now headed to FL to do the same.   They're like cockroaches - wherever they go they destroy nice places and turn them to absolute sh#t.

They probably think that it's the GOPs fault that NY turned to sh#t.  There should be a law that says you have to stay and suffer under the very votes you cast.

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

17 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

That's bad news for Florida.  You think they're going to change their vote to GOP?  No f'n way.  Those are the very same people that voted their state to into a Commie sh#thole and now headed to FL to do the same.   They're like cockroaches - wherever they go they destroy nice places and turn them to absolute sh#t.

They probably think that it's the GOPs fault that NY turned to sh#t.  There should be a law that says you have to stay and suffer under the very votes you cast.

NY hasn’t turned to sh#t. I’m going to Manhattan next month, gonna catch some Broadway shows, visit the Museum of Modern Art, eat some mutton at Keen’s Steakhouse (I saw it on Billions). I can’t do any of that stuff in Miami. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

NY hasn’t turned to sh#t. I’m going to Manhattan next month, gonna catch some Broadway shows, visit the Museum of Modern Art, eat some mutton at Keen’s Steakhouse (I saw it on Billions). I can’t do any of that stuff in Miami. 

Another man got pushed onto the subway tracks last night . He’s dead. Perp was a mentally ill  predicate felon.  And a 15 year old kid was shot dead outside of the police athletic league rec center in the Bronx last night.  Enjoy your mutton. 

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Another man got pushed onto the subway tracks last night . He’s dead. Perp was a mentally ill  predicate felon.  And a 15 year old kid was shot dead outside of the police athletic league rec center in the Bronx last night.  Enjoy your mutton. 

Happens in every big city in the country. Sad, but statistically I will be very safe in the Big Apple. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,104]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

NY hasn’t turned to sh#t. I’m going to Manhattan next month, gonna catch some Broadway shows, visit the Museum of Modern Art, eat some mutton at Keen’s Steakhouse (I saw it on Billions). I can’t do any of that stuff in Miami. 

Yes it has - just like CA, IL and a few other liberal states.  The totalitarian left has taken hold and they will slowly take everything you have on their march towards the glories Socialism.

And yet, you fiddle while Rome burns. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Happens in every big city in the country. Sad, but statistically I will be very safe in the Big Apple. 

Enjoy. Go ahead, bite the big apple.   Don’t mind the maggots. 

[The Real timschochet 6,764]

21 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yes it has - just like CA, IL and a few other liberal states.  The totalitarian left has taken hold and they will slowly take everything you have on their march towards the glories Socialism.

And yet, you fiddle while Rome burns. 

I’m betting Nero had some pretty good meals. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Ron DeSantis' favorability rating has jumped from +5.0% to +7.2%, which may prompt some hit pieces on DeSantis from the MSM.

[RLLD 4,230]

14 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Ron DeSantis' favorability rating has jumped from +5.0% to +7.2%, which may prompt some hit pieces on DeSantis from the MSM.

Yes. This is correct. The only real problem I have with it will be that the Democrat candidate will get next to no vetting at all. I like it when the media takes action to illuminate everything about a candidate......just not when they do it out of contempt for his political view points...

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

17 hours ago, Strike said:

More New Yorkers moved to Florida in 2022 than any year in history in staggering exodus

 

https://nypost.com/2023/01/19/more-new-yorkers-moved-to-florida-in-2022-than-any-year-in-history/

climate change duh

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350]

27 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Yes. This is correct. The only real problem I have with it will be that the Democrat candidate will get next to no vetting at all. I like it when the media takes action to illuminate everything about a candidate......just not when they do it out of contempt for his political view points...

the guy who ran against him before was a crackhead hanging out in motels with gay hookers

the media loved him

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

the guy who ran against him before was a crackhead hanging out in motels with gay hookers

the media loved him

 

Barely lost. Now under federal indictment. Because he’s black, of course.  

[Dizkneelande 1,101]

Americas governor 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

The Republicans have a very deep bench.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The Republicans have a very deep bench.  

theres never a deep bench imo.  all politicians have a limited shelf life because the political landscape under their feet shifts and as they are forced to take concrete political positions, they shed fans until they are marginalized. theres almost never a second act in politics.

now, what a political party may do is have internal factions adopting opposite sides of an argument, and then whichever side becomes popular, that faction produces a nominee.  for example, Biden is pro-war in Ukraine, but AOC voted against more war funding.  so if the Ukraine War grows deeply unpopular, they have an option to offer AOC in 2024.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

Nixon, Reagan and Biden all won on their second try.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Nixon, Reagan and Biden all won on their second try.  

as i said, there is ALMOST never a second act in politics.  and Nixon is correctly one of the few politicians mentioned as one of the exceptions. Biden is as well.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

Desantis is revoking the liquor license of an Orlando nightclub that busted a Drag show Christmas pageant with children in attendance. This man is the hero we’ve been waiting for.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

Black leaders in Miami apologized to Gov Desantis after one of their members called him racist. Damn. Ron is killing it. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Black leaders in Miami apologized to Gov Desantis after one of their members called him racist. Damn. Ron is killing it. 

Most blacks don’t want queer theory either.  He’s an underground success

[Jeff Probst 59]

Trump attacks desantis, saying he loves vaccines, the same vaccines his warp speed program created

“The real Ron is a RINO GLOBALIST, who closed quickly down Florida and even its beaches,” the former president posted. “Loved the [COVID-19] Vaccines and wasted big money on ‘Testing.’ How quickly people forget!”

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,104]

14 hours ago, Jeff Probst said:

Trump attacks desantis, saying he loves vaccines, the same vaccines his warp speed program created

“The real Ron is a RINO GLOBALIST, who closed quickly down Florida and even its beaches,” the former president posted. “Loved the [COVID-19] Vaccines and wasted big money on ‘Testing.’ How quickly people forget!”

:yawn:

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

On 2/6/2023 at 6:47 AM, Jeff Probst said:

Trump attacks desantis, saying he loves vaccines, the same vaccines his warp speed program created

“The real Ron is a RINO GLOBALIST, who closed quickly down Florida and even its beaches,” the former president posted. “Loved the [COVID-19] Vaccines and wasted big money on ‘Testing.’ How quickly people forget!”

Trump sees the writing on the wall. He is trying to keep himself out there as best he can

[RLLD 4,230]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Trump sees the writing on the wall. He is trying to keep himself out there as best he can

Agree.  I think he is likely wasting his time, and perhaps he should step back, but he is a narcissist and so that is unlikely.

It would serve the American people more if he let Desantis have it, but ONLY if Desantis can committ (at least in principle) to restoring the policies and approach that Trump used, we need those back pretty desperately now. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

Some photos have surfaced of a person supposed to be DeSantis hanging out with high school girls when he was a teacher.  Trump is circulating them. Dude has no chance of winning and needs to chill the fuk out.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

Either one of them beats Biden. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Some photos have surfaced of a person supposed to be DeSantis hanging out with high school girls when he was a teacher.  Trump is circulating them. Dude has no chance of winning and needs to chill the fuk out.  

This is Trump's MO. He feels pressure and behind so he is going to try and nuke the ground beneath him. Still would not be surprised if he runs 3rd party (or attempts to) in the end.

Republicans waited to long to address the monster. 

[TimHauck 2,875]

On 2/6/2023 at 6:47 AM, Jeff Probst said:

Trump attacks desantis, saying he loves vaccines, the same vaccines his warp speed program created

“The real Ron is a RINO GLOBALIST, who closed quickly down Florida and even its beaches,” the former president posted. “Loved the [COVID-19] Vaccines and wasted big money on ‘Testing.’ How quickly people forget!”

Yeah I mentioned this in the Trump vs Desantis thread.  Should be interesting because they were both in favor of them earlier, although actually I’m not aware of Trump saying anything truly negative about them so he could just be trying to call Desantis out on his flip flopping as he has trended a bit towards being against the vaccine recently.

But most centrists who they will need to win the election know that overall the vaccines have been a success, so seems like a weird battle, even though speaking out against the vax might help them win the primary due to the number of idiots that believe it’s killing thousands of people.

[jerryskids 6,797]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Either one of them beats Biden. 

Trump does not beat Biden.

[Jeff Probst 59]

3 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Some photos have surfaced of a person supposed to be DeSantis hanging out with high school girls when he was a teacher.  Trump is circulating them. Dude has no chance of winning and needs to chill the fuk out.  

Groomer gonna groom

[craftsman 1,045]

12 hours ago, Jeff Probst said:

Groomer gonna groom

You would know the routine.

[zsasz 369]

12 hours ago, Jeff Probst said:

Groomer gonna groom

 

Why do the Republicans continually support men who engage in this?  Disturbing that these guys claim family values as one of the tentpoles of their political party.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,431]

11 minutes ago, zsasz said:

 

Why do the Republicans continually support men who engage in this?  Disturbing that these guys claim family values as one of the tentpoles of their political party.  

Why do all the liberal losers around here have so many aliases ? Like you? Made an alias and sat on it for 15 years? What a loser. You’ve come so far.  

[TimHauck 2,875]

13 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Trump does not beat Biden.

I would tend to agree, but I guess this is where the geek club wishes for a horrible recession because if that happens then Trump probably does beat him 

[dogcows 1,030]

DeSantis exposed as a hypocrite on the 2nd Amendment…

https://wapo.st/40GqI4p

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As Gov. Ron DeSantis prepared for an election night party in downtown Tampa last year, city officials received a surprising — and politically sensitive — request.

The Republican governor’s campaign wanted weapons banned from his victory celebration at the city-run Tampa Convention Center, a city official said in emails obtained by The Washington Post. And the campaign suggested that the city take responsibility for the firearms ban, the official said — not the governor, who has been a vocal supporter of gun rights.

“DeSantis/his campaign will not tell their attendees they are not permitted to carry because of the political optics,” Chase Finch, the convention center’s safety and security manager, said in an Oct. 28 email to other city officials about the request, which was conveyed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE), a state police agency led by a DeSantis appointee.

He wanted guns banned from his event, but he wanted it to be done in a way that it looked like somebody else was responsible for the ban. In the end, they refused to ban guns for him, so he put in metal detectors for the event. He doesn’t practice what he preaches.