Do liberals still think that covid didn't come from the Wuhan lab that Fauci was funding?

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3 minutes ago, paulinstl said:

Look at my posting history, I wasn't here that entire time. 

So in your world you're fine accusing me of shrugging off Fauci's role, but you get pi$$ed when I make the same claim about you and China. How about this, you don't read or react to my posts and I'll do the same for yours?

I'm not pissed about anything, and I react and respond to any post I want.  You are free to do what you want.

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Lefties like Tim.  You know the far out there west coast crazies.  

They see it like this:

Dems: give afrian americans across the nation 1 million each for reparations!

Pubs: no. 

Tims: See Republicans are racist!

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1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Lefties like Tim.  You know the far out there west coast crazies.  

They see it like this:

Dems: give afrian americans across the nation 1 million each for reparations!

Pubs: no. 

Tims: See Republicans are racist!

tim is worthless to respond to.  hes insane.  if you think of this place as a lunatic ward and yourself as his carer, i guess.

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3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Nah Biden's been pretty bad as the actual president.  But he was spot on here.

You crack me up.  You centrist you.

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Jan 24. Hack hacking once again. 

Wasn't too long after that Biden called Trump a xenophobe for issuing a travel ban.

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Nice try, I am sure he did tell his intelligence agencies to step in, now....back to the scientists as he stated during the election time, how did he do something Trump did not?

Not sure I follow, are you nitpicking it to just “scientists”?  I don’t really blame Trump for not being able to get people to China in the beginning, China wasn’t sharing much and I’m sure by the time Biden sent people there any evidence was likely gone.  But as Hawkeye pointed out, Trump was very supportive of China’s initial actions.

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15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Not sure I follow, are you nitpicking it to just “scientists”?  I don’t really blame Trump for not being able to get people to China in the beginning, China wasn’t sharing much and I’m sure by the time Biden sent people there any evidence was likely gone.  But as Hawkeye pointed out, Trump was very supportive of China’s initial actions.

If only we could all go back and make different decisions with what we know now. 

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17 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Not sure I follow, are you nitpicking it to just “scientists”?  I don’t really blame Trump for not being able to get people to China in the beginning, China wasn’t sharing much and I’m sure by the time Biden sent people there any evidence was likely gone.  But as Hawkeye pointed out, Trump was very supportive of China’s initial actions.

Your provision of Biden saying he would do better, and clearly he has not, is something of interest to me.  It demonstrates how politicians lie, manipulate people, secure votes then come into power and do horrible things. 

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Pick the ignorant side of any topic and you can be sure liberals believe in it.

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1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Pick the ignorant side of any topic and you can be sure liberals believe in it.

Not exclusively.   But as a predictive aspect, this would be correct more than it would be wrong. 

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Man, you idiots on the left really don't care how focking stupid you look, do you? 

Every time.

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On 2/28/2023 at 12:06 PM, Hawkeye21 said:

Trump seemed to be quite happy with China and how they handled it at the time.

 

Jan 24 is an interesting date. China had done jack sh*t until Jan 22nd, he's happy they took action. And actually, everything China did post Jan 22nd does deserve praise (the awful non-response occurred before that) ... until Delta varient faded into Omicron and they didn't let their foot off the gas for another year+.

And who knew on Jan 24 what an international sh*tshow this would become?

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Liberals think the mostly peaceful protests on Jan 6 were worse than Pearl Harbor and 9/11. So yeah, they still believe this. 

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Liberals nowadays are as useless as a screen door on a submarine

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45 minutes ago, edjr said:

 

Jimmy Dore spits truth.  

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Game over Fauci

RAND PAUL: “We now have emails that show him saying that he knew it was gain-of-function, that the virus looked manipulated and that he was worried that this came from the Wuhan lab… This is a bombshell revelation and this will eventually bring down Anthony Fauci.”

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21 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Game over Fauci

RAND PAUL: “We now have emails that show him saying that he knew it was gain-of-function, that the virus looked manipulated and that he was worried that this came from the Wuhan lab… This is a bombshell revelation and this will eventually bring down Anthony Fauci.”

Link?

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11 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Link?

 

 

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If true, he should be tried in a court of law.  I’m serious.  

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9 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

If true, he should be tried in a court of law.  I’m serious.  

And if it's not true, if Paul lied, what should be done with him? 

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They went after the lab leak theory really hard in the beginning. Why do you think he\they did that? Even after it was pretty obvious that's where it came from? 

 

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Just now, Mike Honcho said:

And if it's not true, if Paul lied, what should be done with him? 

Paul has evidence. He presents it in court and then it’s decided from there. It’s not a crime for congress to do it’s job and investigations and pressing charges if evidence is there 

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1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

And if it's not true, if Paul lied, what should be done with him? 

Rand Paul is asking questions and wanting to get DOCUMENTS to get to the truth.  

If he was behind making up evidence, like an official dossier, then yeah.

My turn, where do you honestly think Covid originated?  

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1 minute ago, KSB2424 said:

Rand Paul is asking questions and wanting to get DOCUMENTS to get to the truth.  

If he was behind making up evidence, like an official dossier, then yeah.

My turn, where do you honestly think Covid originated?  

I have no clue.  Based on the Chinese govt., it is unlikely there will ever be definitive proof of the origin of Covid.  Since, diseases & viruses have originated organically since time began, to rule that out without real evidence would be absurd. Of the two choices, I find that one to be the simpler explanation and without solid evidence that originated in a lab, that's the way I lean. 

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1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

I have no clue.  Based on the Chinese govt., it is unlikely there will ever be definitive proof of the origin of Covid.  Since, diseases & viruses have originated organically since time began, to rule that out without real evidence would be absurd. Of the two choices, I find that one to be the simpler explanation and without solid evidence that originated in a lab, that's the way I lean. 

We know how you lean. Save all the drivel clown

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This was already rather clear where the truth was when the former science editor at the NYTimes dropped his original report. Since then, it has only been getting more and more obvious as each new piece of evidence arrives.  Assuming Rand Paul has the evidence, I'm glad they finally found the smoking gun.

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3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This was already rather clear where the truth was when the former science editor at the NYTimes dropped his original report. Since then, it has only been getting more and more obvious as each new piece of evidence arrives.  Assuming Rand Paul has the evidence, I'm glad they finally found the smoking gun.

Right, I'm pretty blown away that there are people who exist that don't think the virus came from the Wuhan Laboratory of Virology that specifically studies Coronaviruses...

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12 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

I have no clue.  Based on the Chinese govt., it is unlikely there will ever be definitive proof of the origin of Covid.  Since, diseases & viruses have originated organically since time began, to rule that out without real evidence would be absurd. Of the two choices, I find that one to be the simpler explanation and without solid evidence that originated in a lab, that's the way I lean. 

Mike, gain of function research is/was banned in the US but proponents of it, chiefly Fauci backdoored funding to the Chinese lab. The guy the US appointed to determine the origins of COVID19 was the same middleman Fauci had used to get the funding to the lab. The reporter (Nicholas Wade) who broke the story two years ago is very credible, he use to be the science editor at the New York Times. Earlier this year, the US Energy department has concluded that the lab leak hypothesis is the most valid.

Here is Wade's original report that laid everything bare (its very long): Origin of Covid — Following the Clues | by Nicholas Wade | Medium  The  cae just gets stronger and stronger with each piece of evidence that has come to light since then.

 

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9 minutes ago, Reality said:

Right, I'm pretty blown away that there are people who exist that don't think the virus came from the Wuhan Laboratory of Virology that specifically studies Coronaviruses...

People have to have both be interested in learning the truth and have the time to pay attention because there's a lot of smoke and coverup out there to sort through. People on the left are particularly disinclined to try, that's why it's important that a guy like Wade with impeccable MSM credentials be the lead journalist on a story like this.

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Masks still don't work

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38 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Mike, gain of function research is/was banned in the US but proponents of it, chiefly Fauci backdoored funding to the Chinese lab. The guy the US appointed to determine the origins of COVID19 was the same middleman Fauci had used to get the funding to the lab. The reporter (Nicholas Wade) who broke the story two years ago is very credible, he use to be the science editor at the New York Times. Earlier this year, the US Energy department has concluded that the lab leak hypothesis is the most valid.

Here is Wade's original report that laid everything bare (its very long): Origin of Covid — Following the Clues | by Nicholas Wade | Medium  The  cae just gets stronger and stronger with each piece of evidence that has come to light since then.

 

I promise to read that...after work. Just started.  As I said, I "lean" natural development, that's not a stuck position. I also care a lot less about the origins than the response and how divisive the entire period has become, but that's a completely different thread.

Thanks - 

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13 hours ago, Reality said:

They went after the lab leak theory really hard in the beginning. Why do you think he\they did that? Even after it was pretty obvious that's where it came from? 

 

Looks like the conspiracy theorists were right and the left wing msm were wrong. Again. 

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12 hours ago, shorepatrol said:

We know how you lean. Save all the drivel clown

 

 

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1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

People have to have both be interested in learning the truth and have the time to pay attention because there's a lot of smoke and coverup out there to sort through. People on the left are particularly disinclined to try, that's why it's important that a guy like Wade with impeccable MSM credentials be the lead journalist on a story like this.

any thoughts on whether the release of the virus was intentional?

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4 hours ago, shadrap said:

any thoughts on whether the release of the virus was intentional?

It was almost surely accidental. Chinese lab workers taking shortcuts with lax safety protocols would not surprise me. In China, when things go screwy, the first thing to do is cover it up and don't tell your boss. If the boss finds out, holy hell, and her first response is to not let her ("her" because the top researcher is a woman) boss find out. The first strand of COVID was a nightmare killer version with no cure, that they would have done that to themselves intentionally seems preposterous.

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18 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

It was almost surely accidental. Chinese lab workers taking shortcuts with lax safety protocols would not surprise me. In China, when things go screwy, the first thing to do is cover it up and don't tell your boss. If the boss finds out, holy hell, and her first response is to not let her ("her" because the top researcher is a woman) boss find out. The first strand of COVID was a nightmare killer version with no cure, that they would have done that to themselves intentionally seems preposterous.

Passes the smell test.  My opinion as well.  Not on purpose but anyone with ties to it covered it up. Including our very own Dr. Fauci.  

Hopefully the world gets to the bottom of it.  We deserve to know.