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Dig her... she can say a lot of truths many conservatives can't without coming off rasis.  Has some good thoughts, though every once in awhile she shows she may not be as intelligent as you first think.

Also... would schmash in fairytale land.

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Just now, posty said:

Owns?  Kind of racist, no?

I don't care if you are racist. Many people of all races are racist.

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1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

Typical right-wing talking points. Never address the real problem 

Black culture. 

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Strong, attractive, black, conservative woman.

The left's worst nightmare, she'll have to be dealt with.

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8 minutes ago, Reality said:

Strong, attractive, black, conservative woman.

The left's worst nightmare, she'll have to be dealt with.

Black culture is a problem. American culture is a win. 

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Her eyes are too far apart.

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56 minutes ago, Reality said:

Strong, attractive, black, conservative woman.

The left's worst nightmare, she'll have to be dealt with.

If she gets to be a big enough problem, the MSDNC will find evidence of her being a racist sexual harasser back in high school.  The Lefties here will not question it, instead breathing a sigh of relief that the media has once again saved them from difficult thoughts. :thumbsup: 

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29 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

If she gets to be a big enough problem, the MSDNC will find evidence of her being a racist sexual harasser back in high school.  The Lefties here will not question it, instead breathing a sigh of relief that the media has once again saved them from difficult thoughts. :thumbsup: 

Difficult thoughts, lol. She has yet to offer a thought that qualifies as anything but inane or insane. 

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2 hours ago, wiffleball said:

Thoughts? Impressions? 

 

She's a pure grifter. However that doesn't mean she's always wrong. 

She's the black female version of Charlie Kirk ( Effective, somewhat, in situations that are short intense arguments against zealots but generally weak everywhere else like interviewing skills, critical thought, practical political analysis, etc, etc)  She chose Conservativism because it was the easiest pathway to conflict ( to raise her personal brand) and there was almost no competition for "space" in the general political pundit world for her role ( good looking, young, would do legwork and research, would prepare, aggressive, etc, etc) 

If the Daily Wire had a better option than her, they'd probably release her after her next contract expired. She can't hold audience capture. She can only generate an ancillary audience to the rest of The Daily Wire's brand. They already have to do a massive number of cross overs with Brett Cooper to try to help generate some numbers for her. 

Put it this way, if there was more money and "personal branding" opportunity in being a hard radical leftist, she'd be that instead. Her BLM documentary was mostly deficient from a media perspective. She just didn't understand the base points to engage a national audience ( not like "What Is A Woman?") and she couldn't secure the level of contacts/insider information needed to justify a full documentary. Media wise, she's just not very skilled and not getting better. If she was an NFL player, she'd be Mark Sanchez. Except as a backup QB on the 1995 Dallas Cowboys roster. 

Her strength is not in studio and doing sit down interviews. Her podcast isn't very good, she can only get guests within the DW "sphere", and her studio show is entirely predictable. She's like Tim Pool in that she needs to be out in the field and playing to her one major "pull" - Which is engaging in conflict with those who are ideologically opposed to her position. I said "position" and not "values" because she's a grifter. She's in it only for the money, power and a soft job, not because she's really aligned to her "views" 

To her credit, she's gotten an endless number of death threats and has kept going. Lots of fringe radicals want to kill her, her white husband ( which is another source of conflict in some arenas) and her kids. But lots of pundits on the Daily Wire are perpetual targets. A lot of people would have given up considering that, but she's still there. Which speaks more to her greed than her resolve. But there is some resolve there. 

She only does one or two specific things well and she generally puts herself in a position NOT to do them. That makes her less and less valuable. However the Daily  Wire can't let her go and she knows it. She's the only major black pundit they have. The rest is heavily stocked with white heterosexual males. That doesn't quite balance out for them. 

The easing point for Owens is if she could be funny. If she had even a shred of basic charisma ( she doesn't), then it would help her platform immeasurably. Angry and pretty is just boring. However angry, pretty and funny has a bit of a rough edged charm to it. In effect, she should be searching out how to be more like Alan Rickman from Die Hard. He was untrustworthy and greedy, but he was funny and realistic. He was never boring. Owens attempting to wash over her grifter tone is not effective. She tries very hard to play it as if she's a straight shooter and it doesn't come off as genuine.  ( Whereas Brett Cooper's "persona" on the DW is an entire fabrication built to generate an audience, but she does it so much better. Owens is bad at being "bad", but also bad at playing "good". Just like you wouldn't want Mark Sanchez being your starting QB1 for the 95 Cowboys ) But that's a restriction of the Daily Wire brand - They want you straight edge, married, with kids, Christian and only controversial within a very narrow set of parameters. 

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14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Antivaxxer (against all vaccines)

 

 

You've actually advocated in the past, for what appears to be forced births. When you say "limiting abortion", you are talking about forcing women to have births that they don't want to have. 

Now people can lean one way or the other on the abortion issue, that's their right, and it's your free speech, but you don't seem to have a lot of consideration for a woman's right to choose regarding her own health care and medical issues. 

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15 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

You've actually advocated in the past, for what appears to be forced births. When you say "limiting abortion", you are talking about forcing women to have births that they don't want to have. 

Now people can lean one way or the other on the abortion issue, that's their right, and it's your free speech, but you don't seem to have a lot of consideration for a woman's right to choose regarding her own health care and medical issues. 

I’m not sure what this has to do with Candace Owens being against all vaccines

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2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not sure what this has to do with Candace Owens being against all vaccines

Something something metal helmets.

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14 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Dig her... she can say a lot of truths many conservatives can't without coming off rasis.  Has some good thoughts, though every once in awhile she shows she may not be as intelligent as you first think.

Also... would schmash in fairytale land.

Where you been ? 

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4 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

I was just pointing out she’s dumb because she’s against all vaccines 

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14 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

…is one of the dumbest people in America. Just trying to finish the sentence, HTH. 

 

14 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Difficult thoughts, lol. She has yet to offer a thought that qualifies as anything but inane or insane. 

I haven’t listen to her much, but if this is Tim’s assessment of her, she probably makes a lot of sense.

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17 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

I haven’t listen to her much, but if this is Tim’s assessment of her, she probably makes a lot of sense.

Just keep in mind, it's not Tim's assessment, It's CNN's.  Tim doesn't have original thoughts...ever

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13 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Antivaxxer (against all vaccines)

No just the chinese flu one. For good reason. :thumbsup:

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My only interaction with her is in this Convicting a Murderer documentary and my impression is she is way too desperate to be seen. She had no connection to the case at all, didn't cover it at all, but during this documentary she sits herself in front of green screen and is "interviewed" for the documentary.  And she adds nothing to it, cause everything she says is also said by people who were there during the investigation and trial. 

 

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17 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

I don't care if you are racist. Many people of all races are racist.

:ninja:

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15 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

No just the chinese flu one. For good reason. :thumbsup:

Wrong again, per usual.

She was part of the inspiration for my thread talking about grifters that started out by mostly being vocal against the covid vaccine, but are actually against all vaccines.

 

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She would not have registered in my consciousness absent her looks which I do find moderately compelling.  As for her opinions, well women have them, what are you gonna do? 

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3 hours ago, TommyGavin said:

Where you been ? 

Promotion at work.. also fostered a 2 year old little girl which we adopted.  Started over with child rearing essentially.  

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53 minutes ago, mmmmm...beer said:

Promotion at work.. also fostered a 2 year old little girl which we adopted.  Started over with child rearing essentially.  

Good man. 

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On 10/22/2023 at 3:54 PM, Cdub100 said:

Typical right-wing talking points. Never address the real problem 

She changed it up a bit and got a little spicy

 

 

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