jerryskids 6,825 Posted November 21, 2020 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: You mean 32% more votes, not “of the vote.” Trump also got 18% more votes So Biden got a 14% higher share? Seems reasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,471 Posted November 21, 2020 Things didn’t turn out the way I wanted so it was fraud. What more evidence do you need? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,825 Posted November 21, 2020 13 hours ago, Rusty Syringes said: For the sake of argument, let's look at the biggest police forces in our country: New York - left. Chicago - left. Los Angeles - left. Philadelphia - left. Houston - left. Washington - left. Dallas - left. Phoenix - left. Miami - left. Las Vegas - left. Baltimore - left. San Francisco - left. Nassau County - left. Detroit - left. Only one of the communities where these police forces serve went right. The right doesn't have the cops on their side. It's overwhelmingly the opposite. Clownzo lickspittles have completely misinterpreted the "defund the police" thing and assume police departments are ready to engage in overthrowing our country. All it means is cities diverting some of the police budget to social services so cops can spend less time dealing with petty drug and domestic stuff and focus more on bigger crimes. Fourteen out of the top 15 largest U.S. police forces work in left-leaning communities run by left-leaning municipal governments. Game. Set. Match. Sorry, help for your "civil war" isn't coming from the police. Thanks for playing! 1 New York (NY) Police 36,008 2 Chicago (IL) Police 11,965 3 Los Angeles (CA) Police 9,870 4 Philadelphia (PA) Police 6,031 5 Houston (TX) Police 5,203 6 Washington (DC) Metropolitan Police 3,712 7 Dallas (TX) Police 3,408 8 Miami-Dade (FL) Police 2,723 9 Phoenix (AZ) Police 2,689 10 Las Vegas (NV) Metropolitan Police 2,566 11 Baltimore (MD) Police 2,524 12 Nassau County (NY) Police 2,462 13 Suffolk County (NY) Police 2,385 14 San Francisco (CA) Police 2,356 15 Detroit (MI) Police 2,250 https://time.com/5906423/2020-election-results/ I’m not into this civil war stuff, but to make sure I understand: in a city like Phoenix which barely leaned left, you believe that the people in the police force are the types of people who would also lean left, or more so go strongly left, such that they would be on the side of the liberals? I believe I can comfortably extend that argument to about 14 others in your list. Also Portland and Seattle, both Uber liberal and not on your list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rusty Syringes 478 Posted November 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I’m not into this civil war stuff, but to make sure I understand: in a city like Phoenix which barely leaned left, you believe that the people in the police force are the types of people who would also lean left, or more so go strongly left, such that they would be on the side of the liberals? I believe I can comfortably extend that argument to about 14 others in your list. Also Portland and Seattle, both Uber liberal and not on your list. I don't believe there is a police force in this country willing to take up arms against this country because a noisy group of Clownzo lickspittles thinks they should. My point is that 14 out of our country's 15 largest police departments protect and serve left-leaning communities who pay their salaries through tax dollars. None of them is going to rise up because their municipal government frees up money out of their budgets to pay social workers to do the jobs they don't want to do anyway, like counsel crack heads and solve domestic disputes. This whole "defund the police" thing has been blown way out of proportion, but that's typical among those who thing OAN and Newsmax are main-stream, balanced and unbiased media these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,993 Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said: I don't believe there is a police force in this country willing to take up arms against this country because a noisy group of Clownzo lickspittles thinks they should. My point is that 14 out of our country's 15 largest police departments protect and serve left-leaning communities who pay their salaries through tax dollars. None of them is going to rise up because their municipal government frees up money out of their budgets to pay social workers to do the jobs they don't want to do anyway, like counsel crack heads and solve domestic disputes. This whole "defund the police" thing has been blown way out of proportion, but that's typical among those who thing OAN and Newsmax are main-stream, balanced and unbiased media these days. This is my favorite part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,825 Posted November 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Rusty Syringes said: I don't believe there is a police force in this country willing to take up arms against this country because a noisy group of Clownzo lickspittles thinks they should. My point is that 14 out of our country's 15 largest police departments protect and serve left-leaning communities who pay their salaries through tax dollars. None of them is going to rise up because their municipal government frees up money out of their budgets to pay social workers to do the jobs they don't want to do anyway, like counsel crack heads and solve domestic disputes. This whole "defund the police" thing has been blown way out of proportion, but that's typical among those who thing OAN and Newsmax are main-stream, balanced and unbiased media these days. Regarding defunding the police, Minneapolis says otherwise. Their city council voted unanimously to blow the whole thing up, but they ran into a pesky legal issue that required the input of people who had two brain cells to rub together. Quote For a moment, Minneapolis had the most dramatic plan for police reform in the United States. In June, as the nation rose up in protest after a Minneapolis police officer killed George Floyd, the city council unanimously voted to disband the city’s police entirely and start anew. To achieve such radical change, however, they’d first have to amend the city’s decades-old charter, which regulates how the police are governed. And to amend the charter, the council would first have to pass a ballot initiative. Momentum stalled this month when the city’s judge-appointed charter commission voted to delay approving the council’s proposed amendment, with the majority saying the legislation was rushed, ill-conceived, and could face legal challenges. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-13/minneapolis-falters-in-plan-to-disband-the-police Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted November 21, 2020 The governor of Georgia certified the election. Then he called for an audit. Why? Can someone please explain this to me? I hope I’m proven wrong. Ridiculous isn’t a strong enough word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,905 Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: So Biden got a 14% higher share? Seems reasonable. Not sure you understand the definition of “share,” but anyway... I’d believe if there was fraud, but I haven’t seen much proof, and “getting more votes” isn’t proof. Considering it was much easier for people to vote this year, and a lot of people didn’t vote in 2016 because they didn’t think Trump had a chance, and some Trump/3rd party votes from 2016 likely switched to Biden in 2020, it’s not crazy for Biden to go from Hillary’s 46% of the vote in 2016 to 49.5% of the vote in 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Reality said: Do as I say....frauds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356 Posted November 21, 2020 I get it that Biden is likely to win I just dont understand how the board lefties dont think its odd that they "stopped the count" in states they needed and magically had leads in the morning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted November 21, 2020 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I get it that Biden is likely to win I just dont understand how the board lefties dont think its odd that they "stopped the count" in states they needed and magically had leads in the morning Yeah. Why didn’t the count stop in Alabama, NY, California, Texas, and all the other states? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I get it that Biden is likely to win I just dont understand how the board lefties dont think its odd that they "stopped the count" in states they needed and magically had leads in the morning They didn’t. And it’s been explained several times here. Not all states have the same laws on when they could start processing/counting mail in ballots. Some states like FL allowed counting to begin early, and some weren’t allowed until the polls closed on Nov 3rd. Those states processed in person voting first, which favored Trump and then mail ballots which favored Biden. It’s not some big conspiracy and very easy to look up. It would be nice if after all this, they passed some sort of national law that is consistently applied to all states. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, OldMaid said: They didn’t. And it’s been explained several times here. Not all states have the same laws on when they could start processing/counting mail in ballots. Some states like FL allowed counting to begin early, and some weren’t allowed until the polls closed on Nov 3rd. Those states processed in person voting first, which favored Trump and then mail ballots which favored Biden. It’s not some big conspiracy and very easy to look up. It would be nice if after all this, they passed some sort of national law that is consistently applied to all states. If you leave out that Pennsylvania, and I believe others, changed the process without it going through the state legislature, which is what the U.S. constitution calls for. Do you think votes should be counted that violate the previous law established by the state legislature? That would be unconstitutional, you realize? Or does the constitution get thrown out during a pandemic? Not familiar with that article. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,825 Posted November 21, 2020 52 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Not sure you understand the definition of “share,” but anyway... I’d believe if there was fraud, but I haven’t seen much proof, and “getting more votes” isn’t proof. Considering it was much easier for people to vote this year, and a lot of people didn’t vote in 2016 because they didn’t think Trump had a chance, and some Trump/3rd party votes from 2016 likely switched to Biden in 2020, it’s not crazy for Biden to go from Hillary’s 46% of the vote in 2016 to 49.5% of the vote in 2020 We can look at the numbers various ways. For simplicity, say each side started with 100 votes last election. This election, Trump got 118 and Biden got 134. 252 total votes, which is a 26% increase, that’s hard to believe in and of itself. 34/(34+18) = 65%, almost 2/3 of the new votes in a state otherwise close to 50/50 (previously more to Trump) are for Biden. Seems to warrant a look-see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boots11234 108 Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: We can look at the numbers various ways. For simplicity, say each side started with 100 votes last election. This election, Trump got 118 and Biden got 134. 252 total votes, which is a 26% increase, that’s hard to believe in and of itself. 34/(34+18) = 65%, almost 2/3 of the new votes in a state otherwise close to 50/50 (previously more to Trump) are for Biden. Seems to warrant a look-see. Stop with the logic already!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: We can look at the numbers various ways. For simplicity, say each side started with 100 votes last election. This election, Trump got 118 and Biden got 134. 252 total votes, which is a 26% increase, that’s hard to believe in and of itself. 34/(34+18) = 65%, almost 2/3 of the new votes in a state otherwise close to 50/50 (previously more to Trump) are for Biden. Seems to warrant a look-see. GTFO with your raciss math! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,287 Posted November 21, 2020 Elderly man & family, covid-19 survivor, evicted from public housing and loses tax payer supplied healthcare. Not sure why the righties are so upset. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Elderly man & family, covid-19 survivor, evicted from public housing and loses tax payer supplied healthcare. Not sure why the righties are so upset. You should look into the perks of being an ex President. You'd sound less stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,287 Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Reality said: You should look into the perks of being an ex President. You'd sound less stupid. You should look up jokes in a dictionary. It wouldn't make you sound less stupid, but would lower the quantity of times you sound stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: If you leave out that Pennsylvania, and I believe others, changed the process without it going through the state legislature, which is what the U.S. constitution calls for. Do you think votes should be counted that violate the previous law established by the state legislature? That would be unconstitutional, you realize? Or does the constitution get thrown out during a pandemic? Not familiar with that article. I must have missed the part of the conversation where we were talking about this. Man, do your arms ever get tired? But since you want to go down that road, I believe, that only AZ and PA are in play for this. And PA already separated those ballots and did not count them. So, nothing will change there. Not sure about AZ. I think you’re smarter than this. I get the feeling you just like to argue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 570 Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, OldMaid said: They didn’t. And it’s been explained several times here. Not all states have the same laws on when they could start processing/counting mail in ballots. Some states like FL allowed counting to begin early, and some weren’t allowed until the polls closed on Nov 3rd. Those states processed in person voting first, which favored Trump and then mail ballots which favored Biden. It’s not some big conspiracy and very easy to look up. It would be nice if after all this, they passed some sort of national law that is consistently applied to all states. Some states only tally undocumented votes between 4 and 5 a.m. Who the heck knows how all this stuff really works Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted November 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, OldMaid said: I must have missed the part of the conversation where we were talking about this. Man, do your arms ever get tired? But since you want to go down that road, I believe, that only AZ and PA are in play for this. And PA already separated those ballots and did not count them. So, nothing will change there. Not sure about AZ. I think you’re smarter than this. I get the feeling you just like to argue. I’m the not smart one? You’re still grasping at who wins and loses and I have left that in the dust on Nov 4. We are talking about free and fair elections here, not the next puppet of the oligarchs to occupy the seat. I’m on to the next election, you’re still fighting this one. Worried? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted November 21, 2020 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/ Here is part of the Trump case: We have been under a national emergency since September 12th, 2018 with regards to foreign interference in elections. The case is that the Dominion software is foreign made and the crazy irregularities found with regards to its tabulation means we should not be certifying the election per the EO. Ultimately, this means the TRUE results of the election are not recoverable, and that the Supreme Court needs to free the state legislatures to send whichever set of electors they wish or none at all. Within 45 days of receiving the assessment and information... the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security... shall deliver to the President...shall deliver a report evaluating...the extent to which any foreign interference that targeted election infrastructure materially affected the security or integrity of that infrastructure, the tabulation of votes, or the timely transmission of election results. In a way, Trump is turning the charge of foreign election interference back on the democrats. The Dominion scandal represents foreign election interference and the damage is so extensive we have no choice but to free the electors. This goes beyond Trump winning the election. This also is about a massive and sweeping criminal investigation and suspension of liberal media outlets that were accessories. This will go after ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted November 21, 2020 52 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: You should look up jokes in a dictionary. It wouldn't make you sound less stupid, but would lower the quantity of times you sound stupid. Your joke was stupid, you're only making it worse. Take the L and move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted November 21, 2020 18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I’m the not smart one? You’re still grasping at who wins and loses and I have left that in the dust on Nov 4. We are talking about free and fair elections here, not the next puppet of the oligarchs to occupy the seat. I’m on to the next election, you’re still fighting this one. Worried? Are you drunk? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted November 21, 2020 34 minutes ago, OldMaid said: Are you drunk? You are worried! Wow. Easy lady, it’s in the bag. It has been for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,484 Posted November 21, 2020 Pretty evident that Biden got the nomination because he’s oblivious and hiding him was easy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 434 Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I get it that Biden is likely to win I just dont understand how the board lefties dont think its odd that they "stopped the count" in states they needed and magically had leads in the morning https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/04/fact-check-no-vote-counting-democrat-led-states-hasnt-stopped/6163978002/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/battleground-states-did-not-stop-counting-votes-el/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,471 Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, BufordT said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/04/fact-check-no-vote-counting-democrat-led-states-hasnt-stopped/6163978002/ https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/facebook-posts/battleground-states-did-not-stop-counting-votes-el/ Facts don’t matter to Trumpers only feelings. They feel like it was still Don’s turn so fraud and he won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,371 Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said: You should look up jokes in a dictionary. It wouldn't make you sound less stupid, but would lower the quantity of times you sound stupid. You're comeback was about as good as George Costanza's "well the Jerk Store called...they're running out of you" comeback. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, MDC said: Facts don’t matter to Trumpers only feelings. They feel like it was still Don’s turn so fraud and he won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,564 Posted November 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, MDC said: Facts don’t matter to Trumpers only feelings. They feel like it was still Don’s turn so fraud and he won. Most ironic poast of the last 4 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,993 Posted November 21, 2020 I’m ready for Biden to take over. Its going to be comedy gold. And as an added bonus, we get to laugh at MDC for voting for and supporting the guy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,564 Posted November 21, 2020 15 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It so true. I’d say the most basic aspect of being in a cult is only getting your information from one source and dismissing anything contrary. Great point about using their own media and it still not being good enough. I referenced PBS as a source a few posts up. You won’t hear anything about it. They won’t go watch it. Its Fockin free to watch. But imagine they did ? Then what? PBS is right wing tin foil hat wearers too? Their fear keeps them ignorant. And ignorance is bliss. Your reference to PBS is what prompted my remark. They think of themselves as our more educated betters. They fail to understand that "more education" doesn't translate to "better education." It only translates to more expensive education. But, hey, they're the smart ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,618 Posted November 21, 2020 It's honestly Trumps own fault he lost. Fired the best political campaign manager in the history of the US for a 2.0GPA average student who would've never had the job if he wasn't banging Ivanka. The rally cry became Blexit instead of America First. What a waste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: It's honestly Trumps own fault he lost. Fired the best political campaign manager in the history of the US for a 2.0GPA average student who would've never had the job if he wasn't banging Ivanka. The rally cry became Blexit instead of America First. What a waste. Trump lost because of the chinese flu. No matter how good or bad Trump did during all that crap, which he did fine, the left pushed the narrative that they would have done better as they constantly inflated the numbers in their fear mongering tactics that they had been working on for years now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,471 Posted November 21, 2020 PA allowed votes that were postmarked by Election Day and received up to 3 days later to be counted. If Trump got every vote received after ED thrown out he’d still lose by 40,000+. Its all over but the crying folks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted November 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, MDC said: PA allowed votes that were postmarked by Election Day and received up to 3 days later to be counted. If Trump got every vote received after ED thrown out he’d still lose by 40,000+. Its all over but the crying folks. Waiting on Harris to resign from the Senate and to stop re-raising money for a campaign on their website they already won. They don't want to take these actions items for some reason. Can you explain? My only conclusion is that from her days of being a common two bit hore, she knows about being slapped around and kicked out the hotel room after sucking her ass off for nothing but a splash in the face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 434 Posted November 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Waiting on Harris to resign from the Senate and to stop re-raising money for a campaign on their website they already won. They don't want to take these actions items for some reason. Can you explain? My only conclusion is that from her days of being a common two bit hore, she knows about being slapped around and kicked out the hotel room after sucking her ass off for nothing but a splash in the face. I suspect she'll wait until January to resign. Like Al Gore and Joe Biden did before her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites