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Your analysis would be 100% except for the fact that there’s a larger context of Trump making months worth of statements about abrogating the Constitution, throwing his enemies in prison, calling for the executions of generals, admiring strongmen like Viktor Orban, curtailing the press, etc, etc., all of the actions of a would be dictator. In each case you can find excuses and justifications as you did here. But when you examine them all together it is a very troubling pattern which you really can’t ignore unless you are deliberately determined to do so (and it kind of appears that you are.)

Well I know how this will go already. I'll give a thoughtful response. You won't like it and you'll throws insults with the other usual suspects. But I'll go once more into the breach.... I guess a lot of it depends on what one feels the role of a moderator is in a debate. If one views it as simply asking questions back and forth then yes Davis and Muir went overboard. I view the role of a debate moderator as asking questions and pushing back or pushing for a more definitive answer when it calls for it. I would 100% disagree with them arguing policy with a candidate because that is playing favorites. I also do think it is fair play to fact check a candidate in real time especially if it is something especially egregious. But again- don't argue policy with candidates. I think Muir and Davis had very good moments in the debate and some bad ones. Muir did ask essentially why the Biden administration kept the Trump tariffs if they are "bad". Davis pushed on the abortion responses. Both Muir and Davis didn't take the bait where the candidates were daring the moderators to ask the other candidate a question on their abortion position. Also, for all the attention their 2 big fact checks on Trump got, it is not mentioned that they gave Trump over 5 minutes more of talk time instead of doing what some moderators would do and try to cut people off to equal out the time as much as possible. Both moderators could have done some things differently and I'd wager given a second chance they would. I also think the article with Davis and the whole portraying it as "ABC's rising star" is a problem with political discourse on TV anymore. Gone are the days of just reading the news and in this case just letting two candidates debate back and forth. Everything is a launching pad anymore or a place for people to get a foothold. I mean if FOX News gets to hold a debate and Trump gets his wish of Hannity or Ingraham moderating it- there would be the same nonsense. I would also like to point out that the Tweet from Colin Rugg uses the word "retaliation" in how Linsey Davis approached the moderating of the debate and the fact checks. At no point in the article he is referencing does that word appear. Rugg also says "Davis said to the LA Times that she didn’t want Trump’s comments to just “hang” there." She does mention that but also the article adds: "With co-moderator David Muir, Davis had studied hours of campaign rallies and interviews to prepare for the much-anticipated event at Philadelphia’s National Constitution Center, and were ready to counter the candidates’ most egregious statements." So the clear statements in the article are they prepared for both candidate's to go over the top. The one thing I think they missed pushing back on was the "fine people on both sides" claim from Harris which has been proven to not be 100% accurate. So- do I think they pushed a little more on Trump? Yes. I also think Trump provided the most egregious statements in the debate so it makes sense to some degree. I also feel like Trump's whole persona is victimhood so it was always going to be the story- and was one Trump was pushing before the debate even started. I'd say as well I've seen better debate moderators but I've also seen worse.

New USA poll out tonight has Harris winning by 3 points in Pennsylvania. Thats within the margin of error, so still effectively a tie. But better than before for her, when she was a couple points down. If she wins North Carolina she won’t need Pennsylvania (but it’s likely if she wins North Carolina she’ll win Pennsylvania as well.)

All the polls now looking good for Kamala Harris: https://www.axios.com/2024/09/17/harris-leads-trump-poll-after-debate-record

It’s more of a MAGA cult. Be sure to buy your new Trump crypto, may need to sell some of your Trump stock, good thing you had your Trump U degree, oh and don’t forget to pick up some new Trump flags and hats

He's just a jackass. Anything that is longer than a sentence breaks his brain because the chickpea in his head is only capable of holding one thought at a time. You notice when he pops into a thread it is almost always to change a subject and he rarely talks about more than one issue at a time.

HT can't handle detail or nuance. Quick, incisive, hit and runs are about all he can manage in his doddering condition.

Whiny biatch

Liberals like to think of themselves as better than everyone else. Yet follow the cult of the DNC and literally believe every word MSNBC, CNN, and NPR says.

You looked him up on LinkedIn? Why would you do that Boyo? Were you hoping he could take care of some croc wearing broccoli heads taking selfies on the benches? I love this for you. SAD!!!!

White dudes for Harris.

I’m saying good luck, in the hopes it works out for you, I would make an offer

It didn’t prove otherwise. He was stopped by guardrails. He almost wasn’t. This time the guardrails will be a lot weaker.

No doubt Donald is being protected by the hand of God

The Chiefs played yesterday…

Coming from the most racist person on this site.

The important stat is the Seahawks are 2-0 and in 1st place. Eat a shitsandwich Niners!

He is, comes back after week 4.

What do you got 5 threads on the first page where you start a topic related to Boston sports? You're a fockin bum Good god

Whomever the bears draft may as well feign brain damage (like peefoam has) and retire

Clyde has "PTSD" from Vietnam or something.

Polling be damned; the best way to tell how this race is going is by the pettiness and shrillness of the "MAGA MINDS" folks here. These guys seem borderline TILT over the past week or so.

Not precisely. The difference is everyone knows that trump is hyperbolic, and secondly when Trump makes some outlandish claim, it's usually only Trump. The left is far more organized in their messaging and use the media to disseminate that message. So on the right, it's Trump riffing, and on the left it's a coordinate campaign with the backing and constant amplification by the media. So yeah, you can find examples, especially of trump, where the right says something that'll get people riled up for a minute. On the left, though, it's a steady coordinated drum beat that is amplified and repeated over and over in order to brainwash the army. And it's obviously working. That's why you hear the jokes that the lefty's got their new programming. You guys all fall right in line with whatever The Party messaging is almost immediately. You guys are very well trained.

RUN DMC