Major Attack on Vegas Strip, 58 dead, 500 wounded

[wiffleball 4,790]

Um...

 

...I quoted your own post. By wiffleball. You. Post #2. YOU cited Mandalay - and we knew instantly what you meant.

 

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Yes, I typed Mandalay - ya know, the location?

 

God, you've got to be a troll. Just lonely much?

 

Docking weirdo.

[Baker Boy 1,702]

With guns, you're trading A LOT of safety for a very minor freedom.

 

It's a bad deal.

They, who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

- Ben Franklin

 

A Constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever. John Adams

 

"I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air -- that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave."
- H.L. Mencken

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

CBS fires vice president who said Vegas victims didn't deserve sympathy because country music fans 'often are Republican'

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/02/top-cbs-lawyer-no-sympathy-for-vegas-vics-probably-republicans.html

It's funny, the big claim on the left is that Trump had made it so that people are comfortable saying racist things now. BS. What it has created is entitled silver spoon twats like this one the comfort of saying disgusting things like this. I know the type, grew up rich, got liberaled up, and has never worried a day in her life. And she's not worried now.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

It's funny, the big claim on the left is that Trump had made it so that people are comfortable saying racist things now. BS.

It's certainly made Stormfront, er I mean the Geek Club, comfortable saying wildly racist sh1t

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

It's certainly made Stormfront, er I mean the Geek Club, comfortable saying wildly racist sh1t

Yeah, wiffleball was a regular SJW before Trump. Nice try, chump.

[Saint Elistan 106]

The interview with his brother shows a guy who is gobsmacked by this.

 

I wonder something.

 

How easy is it to create this entire story out of ether? To 'lose' a scapegoat; to create this destruction. Is a Government fully willing to hide corruption also completely capable of pulling off a horrific act like this to sway public opinion for a very specific strategic purpose?

 

I think this possibility also has to be considered. I don't think that Occam's Razor would be offended.

It's awfully suspicious at the very least. They found him dead in his room? Classic conspiracy theory stuff here.

[ZeroTolerance 584]

59 dead, 527 injured

[Saint Elistan 106]

I love living in a country where a shooter's access to guns can be considered a "right", but medical treatment for the victims of the carnage they inflict is merely "privilege".

[Cdub100 3,928]

 

It's funny, the big claim on the left is that Trump had made it so that people are comfortable saying racist things now. BS. What it has created is entitled silver spoon twats like this one the comfort of saying disgusting things like this. I know the type, grew up rich, got liberaled up, and has never worried a day in her life. And she's not worried now.

 

 

They live in a bubble. They see everyone else bitching about Trump and join in on the "fun". Some of them take it way too far, for sure.

[5-Points 3,564]

I love living in a country where a shooter's access to guns can be considered a "right", but medical treatment for the victims of the carnage they inflict is merely "privilege".

I have the right to buy a gun just as you have the right to buy health insurance. Do you think the government should provide guns for people without the means to buy one for themselves?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

I love living in a country where a shooter's access to guns can be considered a "right", but medical treatment for the victims of the carnage they inflict is merely "privilege".

People get turned away when they show up at a hospital with a gunshot wound? What country is that? It's not the United States, that's for sure. But I live in a country where idiots tell non-sensical lies like this all the time. They are almost always liberals.

[giraldi02 474]

Five things that just dont add up about the Las Vegas mass shooting

 

https://www.naturalnews.com/2017-10-02-five-things-that-just-dont-add-up-about-the-las-vegas-mass-shooting.html

As it pertains to the first one, the multiple shooters aspect, I think that from where he was shooting created an impression of multiple people. He shot out two different windows as well, which must've meant he was in a big room. Wouldn't have been surprised if he set up weapons on both sides. Likely a decent suite. Because of the distance (image here: https://media.nbcnewyork.com/images/mandalay-bay-shooting-locator3.jpg), I think the confusion mixed with the lights could create confusion where the shots are coming from.

 

But how did he get that specific room? He must have planned the logistics of this for quite some time to be able to have that room on an NFL weekend from Thursday-Sunday on a concert event weekend. I'd be curious to see whether he rented that room in the past. Supposedly this guy was a millionaire.

 

Number four is interesting as that area in general is kind of a labyrinth. Most of that area across the street from the Luxor is walled off with a chain-link fence all the way around. Strip side has brick wall outside the fence. But I think in a lot of events there they funnel people in and out through East Mandalay Bay Rd (which when facing the stage, you'd have to go the left and towards the back of the stage). I just wonder if they didn't even have any help around the other areas where those fences open. Likely negligence on their part could come into play if there was a lawsuit.

[5-Points 3,564]

The guy who shot up a church just a little over a week ago was stopped by a citizen with a gun.

It happens every day but it doesn't fit the narrative so it doesn't play in the media.

[MDC 7,471]

No refugees ever commit a fatal attack on US soil = we have to ban the refugees!

 

Dude shoots up a concert killing 50+ - meh sh1t happens in a free society.

 

Geek Club logic.

[IMMensaMind 462]

Yes, I typed Mandalay - ya know, the location?

Yes, the location. DERP. WTF else would 'Mandalay' mean? We KNOW what you meant in post #2.

 

But why don't you just tell us what you were thinking in it?

[5-Points 3,564]

No refugees ever commit a fatal attack on US soil = we have to ban the refugees!

 

Dude shoots up a concert killing 50+ - meh sh1t happens in a free society.

 

Geek Club logic.

I'm all for no crazy people. Make it happen.

[IMMensaMind 462]

Did I call this or what?

Does your fleshlight give you pre-recorded assurances? FOCK but you're a needy little guy.

[ROCKFORD 134]

im waiting on Charlton hestons response.

[IMMensaMind 462]

No refugees ever commit a fatal attack on US soil = we have to ban the refugees!

 

Dude shoots up a concert killing 50+ - meh sh1t happens in a free society.

 

Geek Club logic.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/immigration-official-admits-many-refugees-have-been-convicted-terrorist

 

Derp.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

ABC News just showed Obama singing Amazing Grace. Nauseating.

[IMMensaMind 462]

I love living in a country where a shooter's access to guns can be considered a "right", but medical treatment for the victims of the carnage they inflict is merely "privilege".

One you can provide yourself. The other requires the input of others. That input is offered. You cannot go to a hospital for a gunshot wound and not be treated.

[jerryskids 6,825]

People get turned away when they show up at a hospital with a gunshot wound? What country is that? It's not the United States, that's for sure. But I live in a country where idiots tell non-sensical lies like this all the time. They are almost always liberals.

Yep. Emergency care has been available for all as long as I can remember, but that doesn't fit the Elistan socialist narrative. Don't worry about it though, he is in his 20s, he'll wise up eventually.

[lickin_starfish 1,942]

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/immigration-official-admits-many-refugees-have-been-convicted-terrorist

 

Derp.

No fair, bringing facts into this!

[IMMensaMind 462]

As it pertains to the first one, the multiple shooters aspect, I think that from where he was shooting created an impression of multiple people. He shot out two different windows as well, which must've meant he was in a big room. Wouldn't have been surprised if he set up weapons on both sides. Likely a decent suite. Because of the distance (image here: https://media.nbcnewyork.com/images/mandalay-bay-shooting-locator3.jpg), I think the confusion mixed with the lights could create confusion where the shots are coming from.

 

But how did he get that specific room? He must have planned the logistics of this for quite some time to be able to have that room on an NFL weekend from Thursday-Sunday on a concert event weekend. I'd be curious to see whether he rented that room in the past. Supposedly this guy was a millionaire.

 

Number four is interesting as that area in general is kind of a labyrinth. Most of that area across the street from the Luxor is walled off with a chain-link fence all the way around. Strip side has brick wall outside the fence. But I think in a lot of events there they funnel people in and out through East Mandalay Bay Rd (which when facing the stage, you'd have to go the left and towards the back of the stage). I just wonder if they didn't even have any help around the other areas where those fences open. Likely negligence on their part could come into play if there was a lawsuit.

The 'multiple shooter' story could also be explained by echoes of gun-firing leading some to believe that it was coming from more than one direction.

[Reality 3,121]

I love living in a country where a shooter's access to guns can be considered a "right", but medical treatment for the victims of the carnage they inflict is merely "privilege".

I bet that sounded really good when you lifted it.

 

Hopefully, after some thought, you realize how absurd it really is.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Yep. Emergency care has been available for all as long as I can remember, but that doesn't fit the Elistan socialist narrative. Don't worry about it though, he is in his 20s, he'll wise up eventually.

They still have to pay for it, asshats. Crippled with crippling debt. Fock yeah, America.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

They still have to pay for it, asshats. Crippled with crippling debt. Fock yeah, America.

i thought Obama took care of that?

[Saint Elistan 106]

All the current formatting issues provide an amazing bug - I can't "View It Anyway" on ignored users. That's nice.

 

As fun as it used to be, I have better uses of my time.

[Cdub100 3,928]

So turns out this guy was a left wing extremist. Just like the Bernie Bro who shot up the republican baseball game. When Democrat Maxine Waters said there would be blood in the streets she wasn't kidding.

 

[MDC 7,471]

So turns out this guy was a left wing extremist. Just like the Bernie Bro who shot up the republican baseball game. When Democrat Maxine Waters said there would be blood in the streets she wasn't kidding.

Is there any link to support that claim? Last I read there is no apparent motive.

[Cdub100 3,928]

Is there any link to support that claim? Last I read there is no apparent motive.

Well, here he is in a puzzy hat during a march. He's a registered democrat and he shot at a country concert which apparently to liberals are filled with Trump backing republicans. Dude became radicalized thanks in large part to the MSM and DNC leadership calling for blood in the streets.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Any gun fanatic here would just need one stray bullet off their daughters skull and they would be sniveling to abolish all weapons. You ones who are responsible are tainted by the few bad apples that spoil the bunch. You arent protecting anything.

 

Your fantasy of stopping a black home invader with your weapon at the ready will never come true. If anything your kid will accidentally shoot you or his friend when he spies on where you keep the gun hidden. Or maybe it wont, maybe you will just keep fighting for freedom and wackos will keep bringing whole gun caches to hotels. Hope your wife isnt blown away in the next attack. If she is, you will be the first one in line to sign petitions to change the system. Which wont do anything anyway according to those reports someone posted.

 

Oh and again, if 90s even saw a gun in real life he would pee his pants. Pretend freedom fighter.

[IMMensaMind 462]

Any gun fanatic here would just need one stray bullet off their daughters skull and they would be sniveling to abolish all weapons.

Uh, that's utterly unfair, and an attempt to take advantage of one's personal tragedy. My wife's father was shot, and I had no such change of heart - nor did she.

 

She told him to carry a gun when collecting rent from now on.

 

 

You ones who are responsible are tainted by the few bad apples that spoil the bunch. You arent protecting anything.

Not sure what this means.

 

Your fantasy of stopping a black home invader with your weapon at the ready will never come true.

And that's already been proven false. There are a ton of the following sorts of stories:

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/homeowner-shot-intruder-as-harvey-hit-police-say/

 

If anything your kid will accidentally shoot you or his friend when he spies on where you keep the gun hidden.

Or he could grab the keys to the car and drive over a cliff.

 

Or maybe it wont, maybe you will just keep fighting for freedom and wackos will keep bringing whole gun caches to hotels.

You seem to strive for an impossibility. Murders haven't declined in countries where total gun bans are in effect. They're simply killed different ways.

 

 

Hope your wife isnt blown away in the next attack. If she is, you will be the first one in line to sign petitions to change the system. Which wont do anything anyway according to those reports someone posted.

Appeal to Emotion fallacy attempt #2. No, that's not how it works. If my wife is killed in a car accident, I won't suddenly want to ban cars either.

 

Oh and again, if 90s even saw a gun in real life he would pee his pants. Pretend freedom fighter.

You don't mind personally insulting people to make your point, but it doesn't strengthen it at all. It makes it sound like you're driven emotionally rather than logically.

[GobbleDog 997]

It is worth noting that 50%+ of crimes are committed by black individuals (males specifically) while making up only 13% of the population. And more often than not the firearm in possession is illegal. Just saying. I wonder what the /crime rate in Japan or Norway if they had to deal with that broken community.

America's ghetto crime inflates our crime stats, probably due to more of inner city poverty areas than other nations. Regardless, minorities need protection too. Hell, they need gun protection more than me. Let's also not forget crime aside, guns are also responsible for countless horrific accidents usually involving kids - rich and poor alike.

 

I don't know what the truth is with Australia's ban. Gun-right folks say their stats prove banning guns doesn't work and it's blaspheme to even consider it. I've read contradicting articles on both sides. Wiki says gun homicides are way down (obviously) - along with gun accidents and suicides, but homicides haven't changed much. However I doubt Australia's homicide rates were ever much to begin with. In any case, they don't have nearly the amount of mass shootings the US endures. No other first world country does.

 

At the end of the day, gun folks win - there will be no serious reform in my lifetime and probably not my kid's. We have a lot more carnage in store! I'll live to see 100+ shot dead at some event someday. Heck, there will be another mass shooting before the end of October. America.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

Any gun fanatic here would just need one stray bullet off their daughters skull and they would be sniveling to abolish all weapons. You ones who are responsible are tainted by the few bad apples that spoil the bunch. You arent protecting anything.

 

Your fantasy of stopping a black home invader with your weapon at the ready will never come true. If anything your kid will accidentally shoot you or his friend when he spies on where you keep the gun hidden. Or maybe it wont, maybe you will just keep fighting for freedom and wackos will keep bringing whole gun caches to hotels. Hope your wife isnt blown away in the next attack. If she is, you will be the first one in line to sign petitions to change the system. Which wont do anything anyway according to those reports someone posted.

 

Oh and again, if 90s even saw a gun in real life he would pee his pants. Pretend freedom fighter.

Funny when I think of someone breaking into my home it's never a black guy I have in mind. I guess I've seen too many home security commercials. Will re-evaluate. Thanks.

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

Gun stocks going up

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

that video of not from level 32 is pretty crazy

[peenie 1,915]

Maybe the real killers shot the old guy and escaped?

 

Then again there is no overlap of shooting sounds. It's clearly coming from 1 gun.

[IMMensaMind 462]

that video of not from level 32 is pretty crazy

What? Did I miss something?

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

check the vegas conspiracy thread