Kyle Rittenhouse - Criminal or Hero?

[5-Points 3,598]

As for the question at hand, I wouldn't call him a hero. He's more like a good samaritan who volunteered his time to help clean up and protect a community that was being vandalized and terrorized. 

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1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

He's certainly a hero to me. Ordinary citizens can use the help of volunteers to step up when the vested authorities are overwhelmed. Also, all three pieces of sh*t he shot were violent criminals and good riddance to two and a half lives that don't matter. It seems to indicate that you can't toss a nerf beanbag into a crowd of antifa without hitting an evil scumball.

If I ran a toy company, I'd make a Kyle Rittenhouse action hero figure and have three other toys in the set: Pedo, Shitbag, and Turdbucket. Kyle would have Kyle's face but be built like Rambo and Shitbag would come with a detachable arm.

Dudes arm looked like a pitbull had gnawed on it for hours.  When he was hit you could see the puff of pink mist.

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6 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

As for the question at hand, I wouldn't call him a hero. He's more like a good samaritan who volunteered his time to help clean up and protect a community that was being vandalized and terrorized. 

This is about right.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

I suppose you could say he is a hero for showing anarchist wannbes what anarchy really looks like.   Probably saved 1000's of lives.  

[Djgb13 2,339]

He had an AR and was underaged. That’s what I’d charge him with. The rest was self defense 

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We Witnessed The Kenosha Shootings. Here’s What Really Happened

https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/27/we-witnessed-the-kenosha-shootings-heres-what-really-happened/

KENOSHA, Wisc. — “Oh , sh*t I gotta go!” Richie McGinniss hangs up on me.

It’s not hard to spot the group of people clustered at a gas station. A car partially obscures the scene, but the bright lights of the boarded up business still highlight some members of the small crowd.

I start jogging toward the station, phone in hand, ready to record. Richie, our director of video, told me earlier on that phone call that he was following a group of armed individuals at the time. I remembered them – their arrival near the courthouse, the fights that had broken out with them earlier in the evening, how one member of the group seemed too nervous to be handling a weapon.

The scene there is chaotic – people yelling, shoving, making threats, then a crowd chasing a young man. Richie is already onsite and, as I’m heading to meet him, the moments leading up to the first shooting are already playing out. Richie sees the alleged shooter hurrying down the street, gun in one hand and fire extinguisher in the other, until he reaches a sort of corner in the parking lot of the gas station.

Meanwhile, I’m moving more rapidly toward the chaos. The key moments caught on video begin to come into focus for me, although I’m not close enough to make out specific faces yet. There’s a loud bang. I stop immediately – I didn’t grow up around guns. It sounds like a gunshot. I’m just not sure.

A few beats go by after the first shot – enough time for me to be able to get out my phone. As if on autopilot, I hit the record button.

BREAKING someone has been shot. @RichieMcGinniss just carried him into a car. Directly across street from hospital

— Shelby Talcott (@ShelbyTalcott) August 26, 2020

Bang, bang. Three more gunshots? Four? They sound slightly different from the first. People sprint in every direction, screaming and running away from that little gas station on the corner.

“Were those gunshots?” I ask someone next to me.

“Yeah. Yeah. That was gunshots.”

Richie would later tell me that he saw what prompted the first shooting. A verbal fight escalated as the victim tried grabbing the alleged shooter’s rifle – twice. The second time, Richie told me, the victim came very close to getting his hand on the man’s gun, trying to grab it away from him. He may have actually made contact, but it’s unclear amid the mayhem. That’s when the shooter fired.

“I see the shooter run away, and then I run in to provide medical aid,” Richie tells me. “What I didn’t realize until afterwards is that the shooter ran around the car and stood behind me. I screamed at him to call 911, not realizing he was the shooter. He runs away moments later after pulling out his phone.”

We would find out later that the very first gunshot – the sound that appears to have prompted the shooter to turn around, that Richie recounted and that caused me to begin filming, was not from the man who has now been charged with first degree murder.

It came from an unknown gunman who fired a single shot into the air, according to video footage reviewed by The New York Times.

I’m on the ground, bullets flying, seeing the confrontation from farther away. Phone still in hand, I run across the street and toward where the gunfire erupted. At that moment, a swarm of people begin to move in my direction.

“HE SHOT HIM! WHY’D YOU SHOOT HIM? WHY’D YOU SHOOT HIM?” people yell as a young man sprints past me, gun in hand. I freeze, recording the scene with my phone. I get a glimpse of his face as he passes by, turning back with his hands on his gun as he searches for those chasing him. He looks terrified … and young.

People are claiming this guy shot the first victim. He’s seen here running away. Absolutely chaos right now. pic.twitter.com/9LXk5hX7gl

— Shelby Talcott (@ShelbyTalcott) August 26, 2020

I wasn’t scared until it registered that one of the victims could be Richie.

After the armed individual and the mob following him passes, I turn my focus back on the gas station. It seemed like ages, but couldn’t have been more than a minute before I arrived under the flood lights of the gas station.

Inching my way through, my only thought is about my co-worker (and friend): What if this is Richie? What will I do? What if it’s a fatal shot, and he’s dead? How do I tell his family?

A man lies on the ground, bare-skinned and not moving. He has a red shirt wrapped around his head and as I get closer, there’s blood. Not a lot of blood. But a hole, right in his head. The red shirt has a hole in it, too, where the bullet must have ripped through.

The person lying on the ground isn’t Richie. Relieved, I begin to look for him. A shirtless man next to me is yelling as he helps lift the victim. It’s Richie. I breathe. He’s fine. He’s helping.

I follow the chaos as he and three others begin carrying the victim across the street. His hand is hanging down, completely limp, and his bloodied, t-shirt wrapped head is lopsided. I can’t tell if he’s alive, although moments earlier he was breathing.

That breathing was not like anything I had ever heard. It was like while his body knew it had to breathe, but his brain was unable to process how to make it happen. He was sort of wheezing, just for a few moments as he battled. That stopped quickly.

Screaming voices all round, and the disorder of the moment seems to make it harder for the guys to get the victim into a car sitting with its trunk open just across the street. Looking up, I notice a sign. We are right in front of a hospital – literally directly in front of it.

That’s good, I think. We’re so close. He’ll be fine.

There’s a lot of yelling and chaotic movement of human bodies. Everyone’s shouting instructions, there is a lot of crying and distraught faces, some people are angry. The victim is finally loaded into the car, sort of smushed into this medium-sized trunk. Richie gets in that trunk with him. The driver tries to move the car through the sea of shocked humanity, toward the hospital entrance (which couldn’t have been more than about 100 yards).

The crowd surrounding the car won’t move. Richie bellows at a group of people behind the car to get out of the way, as the vehicle needs to back up in order to drive down the hospital driveway. I’m to the side of the car, just on the corner of the driveway, and I can’t believe that the crowd is inadvertently not allowing this car to pass.

“This man needs every single second at the hospital he can get,” I think before yelling at someone to “MOVE!”

The car, Richie and victim inside, finally manages to squeal away towards the hospital. I look around and begin to walk back towards where the first shooting happened. A car is engulfed in flames at the gas station.

And then – four more gunshots.

I can’t quite figure out where the gunshots are coming from. More keep coming. Is it all from the same shooter? I have no idea.

I’ll later learn that protesters had continued chasing the alleged shooter I had seen running past me. Townhall’s Julio Rosas was on his way to the site of the first shooting when he saw the foot pursuit. According to Rosas, the guy with the rifle (the accused shooter) tripped and fell mid-chase. Video posted to Twitter would back up his account. The crowd shouted “Get his ass!”

“Two people jumped onto him and there was a struggle over control of the rifle, but the guy was able to retain it after firing off multiple rounds and hitting the two attackers,” Rosas told me, adding that one man hit the alleged shooter over the head with a skateboard as he was on the ground. This man then tried to grab the gun, according to photos and video evidence.

“Everyone else had cleared away from him and he got up and walked away.”

????????????: Multiple gunshots are fired after people chased a guy with a rifle. Rifle dude tripped and fell. He fired his gun at a guy who jumped on top of him. pic.twitter.com/BfV244MMnc

— Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) August 26, 2020

Here’s video of the man’s wounds, I recorded him being shot in Kenosha. His right arm is badly damaged. Credit: @ louriealex (instagram) pic.twitter.com/iE8vUG27mb

— Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) August 26, 2020

As Julio is recording this second shooting, I follow a a small group through the parking lot across from the gas station and quickly squat down behind a car. Someone asks where the police are, a question I’m wondering as well. Behind me, firecrackers go off in the back yard of a small house. Everyone behind the car, including myself, jumps instinctively.

“Are you f***ing kidding me?” Someone asks, gesturing towards the firecrackers.

Sirens begin to wail and I see the familiar lights of cop cars coming down the road. Officers very quickly surround the scene and I emerge from behind the safety of the parked car. They work to shut down the streets. There are officers in front of the gas station, down the road – everywhere.

Still, it took them several minutes to arrive, even though they were just down the street trying to disperse the crowd. It took six minutes, maybe, from the first shot fired for a single officer to arrive, by my estimation.

My phone rings. It’s Richie. His voice is shaking, but I can tell he’s trying to act okay.

“Hey,” he says.

“You okay?” I ask. “You’re at the hospital?”

Richie says he’s fine, but that he doesn’t have a shirt. He sounds nervous and upset, understandably so, and says he can’t walk back to the hotel without a shirt on because some guys were angry when he was helping the victim. He took a few punches while transporting the victim to the car, he tells me.

“I don’t have a shirt. Can you get me one?” he asks, adding that I should meet him at the hospital and we can go home.

The phone call ends. I text the third person in our Daily Caller squad, Jorge Ventura, to make sure he’s okay. Luckily, he tells me later that he had been heading back to the hotel when the shooting started, which means he was just fine.

I meet up with Julio in front of the hospital, and we head towards the emergency entrance. Inside the hospital, Richie is talking to a police officer, but I am quickly told I have to wait outside. Julio and I sit on the sidewalk outside the ER’s entry.

We wait. Midway through, one of the few other men waiting outside with us becomes distraught. He’s just learned that his friend, one of the victims, is being taken to surgery and might lose his arm. The man begins pacing, crying out and screaming. He tries to pump himself up enough to call his friend’s family.

“Come on, man. You’ve gotta call them. You’ve gotta call his family. His friends. Come on, man,” he says out loud.

The other man gets on the phone at some point and tells someone that he’s waiting outside of the hospital.

“A white supremacist just shot a bunch of innocent protesters,” we hear him say.

Julio and I look at each other with the same confused face. “What?” I think.

Earlier in the night, the supposedly “white supremacist” shooter had been rendering aid to protesters injured by the crowd control munitions that police fired.

The night before that, I spoke with three members of this crew that the shooter was a part of. They were protecting a local business and got into a heated argument with protesters who accused them of not being on their side.

One person in the armed crew, which calls itself “The Libertarians,” explained that they were on the same side. Richie even spoke to the shooter right before the incident. He asked why he was armed and standing in front of a business.

“So people are getting injured, and our job is to protect this business and part of my job is to also help people. If there’s somebody hurt, I’m running into harms way. That’s why I have my weapon, I need to protect myself, obviously,” he said.

“But I also have my med kit.”

[Kopy 573]

15 hours ago, MDC said:

Regardless, only the broken shell of a human would call this guy a “hero.”

WTF is wrong with you?

 

[Kopy 573]

3 hours ago, 5-Points said:

As for the question at hand, I wouldn't call him a hero. He's more like a good samaritan who volunteered his time to help clean up and protect a community that was being vandalized and terrorized. 

Vandalized and terrorized by the same people MDC calls brothers and fine americans.

 

[MDC 7,546]

46 minutes ago, Kopy said:

WTF is wrong with you?

 

For not idolizing a 17 y/o who illegally brings a firearm to a violent protest?

[iam90sbaby 2,644]

We should build a few statues of him, just to really piss them off

[Dizkneelande 1,107]

6 minutes ago, MDC said:

For not idolizing a 17 y/o who illegally brings a firearm to a violent protest?

Class A misdemeanor in Wisconsin. Dude is a hero. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

I promise - I didn’t write this article.

https://www.revolver.news/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-hero-or-villain/

 

[Gladiators 2,000]

15 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

I promise - I didn’t write this article.

https://www.revolver.news/2020/08/kyle-rittenhouse-hero-or-villain/

 

Sure thing Harold Cameron

[mmmmm...beer 809]

When you're a minor who wasn't supposed to have a gun, but the guy you killed was a pedophile.

"Penalties offset, 1st Down!" 

[KSB2424 3,148]

Read the way this article is written 

https://abc11.com/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-jacob-blake/6393801/

[Voltaire 5,346]

Kyle Rittenhouse    3

Communists           0 - Final

[Patented Phil 1,469]

8 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Read the way this article is written 

https://abc11.com/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-jacob-blake/6393801/

Says that the first guy he shot chased him and tried to take away his gun.  Why is it so hard to realize that if someone tried to disarm another person it’s a life threatening situation?  Open and shut case   of self defense.

[nobody 2,706]

19 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Read the way this article is written 

https://abc11.com/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-jacob-blake/6393801/

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According to court records, Huber had a skateboard in his right hand and used it to "make contact" with Rittenhouse's left shoulder as they struggled for control of the gun.

Lol at using his skateboard to make contact.

[Gladiators 2,000]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

Lol at using his skateboard to make contact.

That’s a great way to put it.

Rittenhouse used a bullet in his AR-15 to make contact with Huber’s chest.

[shorepatrol 1,871]

4 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

When you're a minor who wasn't supposed to have a gun, but the guy you killed was a pedophile.

"Penalties offset, 1st Down!" 

It's being dubbed the "Kenosha Hat Trick"  

[Old School 360]

21 hours ago, kilroy69 said:

By him going there he put all this in motion and instigated the process. If he just stayed home and LARPED with his buddies none of this would have happened. Instead he went into a riot zone knowing full well what he could get himself into. I feel no sympathy for him. It is very simple. If he did not go out of his way to find trouble by going out of state to a riot zone none of this would have happened. This is his fault. 

Yet the leftist anarchists who were bussed in to actually start trouble, loot, and burn down the city get a free pass while anyone going there to protect private property and businesses are in the wrong? 

Got it. 

[shorepatrol 1,871]

4 minutes ago, Old School said:

Yet the leftist anarchists who were bussed in to actually start trouble, loot, and burn down the city get a free pass while anyone going there to protect private property and businesses are in the wrong? 

Got it. 

He picked his side a long time ago with that line of thinking. 

[Old School 360]

21 hours ago, MDC said:

If someone shoots 3 people and kill 2 and it’s justified, that person probably doesn’t leave the scene of the shooting. Maybe he left because he illegally had the firearm. Either way what a hero.

Or possibly because a rioting MOB Was chasing him down and assaulting him? Just a possible reason  Head away from the mob and head to the police.

Edited August 29, 2020 by Old School
I can’t spell for sh!t

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Libtard mobs have been bullying people for so long they think they can just do anything without any consequences.  Then along come some Patriots with long guns who stand their ground.  Who in their right mind sees a guy with a long gun and assaults him to take it away?  I'll tell you who - a dumb, dead Libtard.  

[Patented Phil 1,469]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/dcs-richie-mcginniss-describes-shooting-kenosha-wisconsin-heard-shots-fired-kyle-rittenhouse-fired-gun/

Looks like the kid worked in a Kenosha pool as a lifeguard, and didn't cross state lines with a weapon.  He and his buddy went out after work to clean up graffiti, then went to the rally later that night.  The kid was provided a rifle that apparently was owned by his buddy.  Not even clear at this point if any crimes were committed by the kid.

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“Later in the day, they received information about a call for help from a local business owner, whose downtown Kenosha auto dealership was largely destroyed by mob violence,” the statement continues. “Business owner needed help to protect what he had left of his life’s work, including two nearby mechanic’s shops. Kyle and a friend armed themselves with rifles due to the deadly violence gripping Kenosha and many other American cities, and headed to the business premises. The weapons were in Wisconsin and never crossed state lines.”

 

[Voltaire 5,346]

5 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/dcs-richie-mcginniss-describes-shooting-kenosha-wisconsin-heard-shots-fired-kyle-rittenhouse-fired-gun/

Looks like the kid worked in a Kenosha pool as a lifeguard, and didn't cross state lines with a weapon.  He and his buddy went out after work to clean up graffiti, then went to the rally later that night.  The kid was provided a rifle that apparently was owned by his buddy.  Not even clear at this point if any crimes were committed by the kid.

 

That's excellent news if true.

Also, the kid IS local. Antioch, IL and Kenosha, WI are the same place. It's all the same corner of Chicagoland.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

This is the eyewitness to the first shooting who says that the victim was chasing Kyle and tried to grab his gun.  He's reporter for the Daily Caller and he had interviewed Kyle a few minutes earlier.  In that interview Kyle said that his main reason for being there was that he was a certified EMT and wanted to provide aid to anyone who needed it.  He was also there to defend the business.  After the interview Kyle and his friend said they were going to look for protesters to render aid to as there had been a scuffle earlier.  

Libtards in here eating a lot of crow right now.  

 

[Goggins 146]

Hero

1. He didn't bring a long gun across state lines, the gun was already in WI

2. WI 18 year old exemption only applies to short barrel rifles and shotguns, 16 is the age to possess a long gun.

3. It isn't illegal to cross state lines. Many of the BLM/Antifa peaceful protesters and livestreamers/journalists present were from out of state. In fact, the following night, law enforcement detained 3 vans full of anarchists, from a group called Riot Kitchen, out of Seattle, at a gas station as they were filling up gas cans and in possession of riot paraphernalia, after receiving a tip.

4. He was with a Libertarian militia there to protect private property, as requested by the owner who had his property vandalized the previous night, they are on video multiple times talking about their reasons for being there, even received endorsement from local BLM guy. The militia is on video 30 minutes prior to the shooting calmly standing there while being yelled at by an enraged white girl and black girl. 

5. He is on video being interviewed, says he is there to protect property and provide medical services. Also on video in one of the livestreams walking by asking if anyone needs medical attention, about 30 min before the first shooting, then joins the militia on guard mentioned above.

6. In livestream video you see him being chased by the raging pedo midget, who throws a bag at him, not a Molotov cocktail. That initial story was because on video the plastic bag reflected in the light from the auto shop and looked like a flame, it was incorrect. Raging pedo midget is on video earlier in the night screaming at the libertarian militia group  at the property they were guarding, with the plastic bag, no way to know what was in it. This was the video clip when raging pedo midget yelled "shoot me n***a" multiple times.

7. When Kyle was being chased by raging pedo midget there was also a tall bearded guy with a handgun chasing him, the handgun was fired prior to Kyle firing. 

8. After shooting raging pedo midget (who grabbed for his gun), Kyle sticks around to check on him. A videographer from Daily Caller (mentioned in one of the posts above) takes his shirt off to administer first aid and yells call 911. Kyle calls someone on his phone. Maybe 911, maybe his militia buddies, maybe his mom. He can be heard saying "I killed someone". He then realizes (or is told by someone on the phone) to leave the approaching mob for his own safety and he runs north to where the cops are staged.

9. Angry mob, including tall bearded guy with gun who fired earlier, begin chasing him up the road. Yelling to get him.

10. Someone swipes at his head, he stumbles, and ends up on his back on the street.

11. A black guy does a flying kick to Kyle's head, he may or may not have fired a shot next, black guy backs off, Kyle leaves him alone.

12. Skate or die, with previous charges of domestic assault and strangulation, hits Kyle in the head with his skateboard and then attempts to take his rifle. Skate or die may have inadvertently shot himself, his hand was dangerously close to the trigger. Either way, he takes a 5.56 round to the chest at point blank and stumbles away.

13. Medic guy, who was seen on video running up the street pulling a glock out of his back waistband, approaches Kyle. He false surrenders, holding his glock in one hand and cell phone in other, palms up (false surrender is a violation of Geneva convention btw). Kyle, with his rifle pointed at medic, does not fire. Medic then reaches for rifle and points glock at Kyle. Kyle shoots his right arm that is holding the glock.

14. Crowd backs off, Kyle stands up, looks around, then returns to walking up the street towards the police. A handful of shots are fired off screen, Kyle turns around with weapon raised, sees no immediate threat, lowers rifle, walks to police with hands raised.

15. No shots were fired from Kyle's gun at anyone who was not directly attacking him. All shots fired by Kyle hit their target and neutralized them, except the possible shot fired at black kung fu guy.

16. Police do not apprehend Kyle, they go straight to the injured skate or die girlfriend beater and commie medic with the glock still in his hand, and his bicep splattered on the road. They take control of scene and get the injured to the hospital, which is only a few hundred yards away, directly across from the first shooting

17. Kyle returns home to IL, 20 minutes away, and turns himself in to the police.

Fortunately for Kyle, and unfortunately for the media and those with an agenda, every single minute of the night was recorded by livestreamers and dozens of other Twitter journalists. What actually happened has been backed up by video and first hand accounts.

Tweets debunking the  charges: https://mobile.twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1299414708634742784

Statement from his attorney:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egjoqf8WAAAXbx8?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgjorisWoAAuF0d?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgjosFbWsAEYNnh?format=jpg&name=large

Youtube livestream showing the first shooting, and chase leading up to it, (03:58:40) and Kyle offering medical help and the militia interaction with loud females (03:25:08-~03:30:00)

 

Tweet video showing mob chasing and attacking Kyle, including black kung fu kick, skate or die board smash, and medic with raised glock. Kyle's presence of mind while under this duress is nothing short of amazing. Special forces should be recruiting this kid.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1298692376571961344

Raging pedo midget yelling "shoot me n***a"

https://mobile.twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298474730966659072

Raging pedo midget and commie medic on scene at auto shop being protected by militia, lots of tension.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShelbyTalcott/status/1298474884234981376

Commie medic admitting he wished he had killed Kyle when he pointed his glock at him:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/man-who-had-his-arm-partially-blown-off-confesses-to-friend-his-only-regret-was-hesitating-to-pull-his-gun-and-not-killing-17-year-old-rittenhouse/

Tall bearded guy with gun at first shooting, and pics from earlier with him holding gun:

https://m.imgur.com/l3nCvZW

There are other streams, tweets, and still photos verifying everything posted above about the events that took place in the hours leading up to and through the shootings. 

I'd encourage anyone who is interested in the story to watch the film and study the law rather than rely on CNN and BuzzFeed for their information.

Kyle will be exonerated, either through dropped charges or a jury, and will receive millions from media painting him as Nick Sandmann with an uzi.

 

* I could be wrong on #2, as one of Kyle's attorneys points out, the statute is unclear if it only applies to hunting or in general.

[Goggins 146]

Skate or die charges:

https://www.bailbondshq.com/wisconsin/kenosha-inmate-HUBER/00000006931K-003

Raging pedo midget charges (convicted on sexual contact with minor and served 14 years in AZ, charged 4 weeks ago in WI on disorderly conduct and battery)

https://www.bailbondshq.com/arizona/azdoc-inmate-JOSEPH/172556

https://www.bailbondshq.com/wisconsin/kenosha-inmate-ROSENBAUM/590130

Medic, aka one armed Steve, was allegedly arrested for burglary a ways back but I can't seem to find that page, and was arrested a few years ago but this site doesn't list the charges, perhaps same thing:

https://www.findmugshots.com/arrests/gaige_p_grosskreutz_id_44305921.html

 

Sadly the useful idiots of America are donating tens of thousands of dollars to these degenerates (or their families). I couldn't imagine being the type of person who willingly donates to convicted pedophiles and people arrested for beating and strangling their girlfriend. Not to mention chasing down someone and trying to kill them in the street.

I guess that is the state of America in 2020 though. By any means necessary.

[Goggins 146]

The Kenosha Hat Trick

[5-Points 3,598]

16 hours ago, Djgb13 said:

He had an AR and was underaged. That’s what I’d charge him with. The rest was self defense 

Ironically, in Wisconsin, 17 is deemed too young to possess a dangerous weapon. However 17 is deemed old enough to be charged as an adult. 

Seems a little contradictory to me. 

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

On 8/28/2020 at 12:15 PM, kilroy69 said:

I have absolutely no problem with defending your home and business. I think you should be able to shoot looters on site. The problem here is that it was not his home, his community or even his state. This was not fred down the street defending his castle against a bunch of marauders. This was someone who again went out of his way to engage in a situation he did not belong. 

While I agree, it doesn't seem to bother anyone that these "protesters" in many cases are professional protesters drifting about causing trouble.

Yes, this kid is an idiot. But he did exactly what the left wanted. They are deliberately creating a situation where people will fight back and look like the bad guy through the prism of the leftist media.

Ive been seeing all day "Trump is responsible for all the violence he is decrying." that is what this is all about. Not justice. Not lives. This is straight up a power play. Just like it was in 2016.

[Voltaire 5,346]

;c

3 hours ago, Goggins said:

Hero

1. He didn't bring a long gun across state lines, the gun was already in WI

2. WI 18 year old exemption only applies to short barrel rifles and shotguns, 16 is the age to possess a long gun.

3. It isn't illegal to cross state lines. Many of the BLM/Antifa peaceful protesters and livestreamers/journalists present were from out of state. In fact, the following night, law enforcement detained 3 vans full of anarchists, from a group called Riot Kitchen, out of Seattle, at a gas station as they were filling up gas cans and in possession of riot paraphernalia, after receiving a tip.

4. He was with a Libertarian militia there to protect private property, as requested by the owner who had his property vandalized the previous night, they are on video multiple times talking about their reasons for being there, even received endorsement from local BLM guy. The militia is on video 30 minutes prior to the shooting calmly standing there while being yelled at by an enraged white girl and black girl. 

5. He is on video being interviewed, says he is there to protect property and provide medical services. Also on video in one of the livestreams walking by asking if anyone needs medical attention, about 30 min before the first shooting, then joins the militia on guard mentioned above.

6. In livestream video you see him being chased by the raging pedo midget, who throws a bag at him, not a Molotov cocktail. That initial story was because on video the plastic bag reflected in the light from the auto shop and looked like a flame, it was incorrect. Raging pedo midget is on video earlier in the night screaming at the libertarian militia group  at the property they were guarding, with the plastic bag, no way to know what was in it. This was the video clip when raging pedo midget yelled "shoot me n***a" multiple times.

7. When Kyle was being chased by raging pedo midget there was also a tall bearded guy with a handgun chasing him, the handgun was fired prior to Kyle firing. 

8. After shooting raging pedo midget (who grabbed for his gun), Kyle sticks around to check on him. A videographer from Daily Caller (mentioned in one of the posts above) takes his shirt off to administer first aid and yells call 911. Kyle calls someone on his phone. Maybe 911, maybe his militia buddies, maybe his mom. He can be heard saying "I killed someone". He then realizes (or is told by someone on the phone) to leave the approaching mob for his own safety and he runs north to where the cops are staged.

9. Angry mob, including tall bearded guy with gun who fired earlier, begin chasing him up the road. Yelling to get him.

10. Someone swipes at his head, he stumbles, and ends up on his back on the street.

11. A black guy does a flying kick to Kyle's head, he may or may not have fired a shot next, black guy backs off, Kyle leaves him alone.

12. Skate or die, with previous charges of domestic assault and strangulation, hits Kyle in the head with his skateboard and then attempts to take his rifle. Skate or die may have inadvertently shot himself, his hand was dangerously close to the trigger. Either way, he takes a 5.56 round to the chest at point blank and stumbles away.

13. Medic guy, who was seen on video running up the street pulling a glock out of his back waistband, approaches Kyle. He false surrenders, holding his glock in one hand and cell phone in other, palms up (false surrender is a violation of Geneva convention btw). Kyle, with his rifle pointed at medic, does not fire. Medic then reaches for rifle and points glock at Kyle. Kyle shoots his right arm that is holding the glock.

14. Crowd backs off, Kyle stands up, looks around, then returns to walking up the street towards the police. A handful of shots are fired off screen, Kyle turns around with weapon raised, sees no immediate threat, lowers rifle, walks to police with hands raised.

15. No shots were fired from Kyle's gun at anyone who was not directly attacking him. All shots fired by Kyle hit their target and neutralized them, except the possible shot fired at black kung fu guy.

16. Police do not apprehend Kyle, they go straight to the injured skate or die girlfriend beater and commie medic with the glock still in his hand, and his bicep splattered on the road. They take control of scene and get the injured to the hospital, which is only a few hundred yards away, directly across from the first shooting

17. Kyle returns home to IL, 20 minutes away, and turns himself in to the police.

Fortunately for Kyle, and unfortunately for the media and those with an agenda, every single minute of the night was recorded by livestreamers and dozens of other Twitter journalists. What actually happened has been backed up by video and first hand accounts.

Tweets debunking the  charges: https://mobile.twitter.com/MarinaMedvin/status/1299414708634742784

Statement from his attorney:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Egjoqf8WAAAXbx8?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgjorisWoAAuF0d?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgjosFbWsAEYNnh?format=jpg&name=large

Youtube livestream showing the first shooting, and chase leading up to it, (03:58:40) and Kyle offering medical help and the militia interaction with loud females (03:25:08-~03:30:00)

 

Tweet video showing mob chasing and attacking Kyle, including black kung fu kick, skate or die board smash, and medic with raised glock. Kyle's presence of mind while under this duress is nothing short of amazing. Special forces should be recruiting this kid.

https://mobile.twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1298692376571961344

Raging pedo midget yelling "shoot me n***a"

https://mobile.twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1298474730966659072

Raging pedo midget and commie medic on scene at auto shop being protected by militia, lots of tension.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ShelbyTalcott/status/1298474884234981376

Commie medic admitting he wished he had killed Kyle when he pointed his glock at him:

https://conservativefighters.org/news/man-who-had-his-arm-partially-blown-off-confesses-to-friend-his-only-regret-was-hesitating-to-pull-his-gun-and-not-killing-17-year-old-rittenhouse/

Tall bearded guy with gun at first shooting, and pics from earlier with him holding gun:

https://m.imgur.com/l3nCvZW

There are other streams, tweets, and still photos verifying everything posted above about the events that took place in the hours leading up to and through the shootings. 

I'd encourage anyone who is interested in the story to watch the film and study the law rather than rely on CNN and BuzzFeed for their information.

Kyle will be exonerated, either through dropped charges or a jury, and will receive millions from media painting him as Nick Sandmann with an uzi.

 So this guy is Regg is walking around livestreaming for donations and every so often he gets one. He's actually raising some decent money doing this. Covering protests pays the bills quite well if you have enough people following you. Anyway, if you donate, you get a little shoutout message to appeaer on the screen of the stream. Check out the message that pops up at 3:26:31.

[kilroy69 1,252]

53 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

While I agree, it doesn't seem to bother anyone that these "protesters" in many cases are professional protesters drifting about causing trouble.

Yes, this kid is an idiot. But he did exactly what the left wanted. They are deliberately creating a situation where people will fight back and look like the bad guy through the prism of the leftist media.

Ive been seeing all day "Trump is responsible for all the violence he is decrying." that is what this is all about. Not justice. Not lives. This is straight up a power play. Just like it was in 2016.

Let me be clear. I feel no sympathy for the kid OR the people he shot. They both were in places they should not have been doing things they should not have been. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

14 minutes ago, kilroy69 said:

Let me be clear. I feel no sympathy for the kid OR the people he shot. They both were in places they should not have been doing things they should not have been. 

I have no problem with that take.

[Gladiators 2,000]

57 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I have no problem with that take.

Did you guys just touch tips?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,201]

2 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

While I agree, it doesn't seem to bother anyone that these "protesters" in many cases are professional protesters drifting about causing trouble.

Yes, this kid is an idiot. But he did exactly what the left wanted. They are deliberately creating a situation where people will fight back and look like the bad guy through the prism of the leftist media.

Ive been seeing all day "Trump is responsible for all the violence he is decrying." that is what this is all about. Not justice. Not lives. This is straight up a power play. Just like it was in 2016.

And let's not forget that Trump has offered to help every one of these cities and the Democrats running them have refused every offer. 

This ain't Trump's fault.  Not by a long shot.  The left couldn't get what they want thru fair and legal elections, so now they are going to try it thru violence and scaring people and then say it's Trump's fault.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,201]

6 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Did you guys just touch tips?

Huh?  Weren't you watching?

[Gladiators 2,000]

10 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Huh?  Weren't you watching?

I looked away for 10 seconds...

[jonmx 2,430]

19 hours ago, MDC said:

For not idolizing a 17 y/o who illegally brings a firearm to a violent protest?

He did stand up against a mob of thugs who have been vandelizing the city.  That is admirable considering the city and state weren't doing it.