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17 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Youre not gonna change your mind. Im not wasting my time.  For a guy who says hes still confused about this, you really seem like you want this trans kids stuff to be true.  But, a simple search of "FDA puberty bliocker warning" will yield  countless results. 

Not at all, in fact I even posted in this very thread I hadn't made up my mind, but typical internet back and forth I guess.   

Yes, I can do that and will now, but I usually ask because when people say they saw something I like to read the same thing they did so we are on the same page.   My google search can yield other things that you didn't read, and then the miscommunication continues.  

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15 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Not at all, in fact I even posted in this very thread I hadn't made up my mind, but typical internet back and forth I guess.   

Yes, I can do that and will now, but I usually ask because when people say they saw something I like to read the same thing they did so we are on the same page.   My google search can yield other things that you didn't read, and then the miscommunication continues.  

Fair enough, sir

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10 hours ago, Shooter McGavin said:

You're not following.  Go back a reread.

I agree with you that the gender is assigned at birth.  In fact I posted that earlier when you said one has to go through puberty to decide if they agree with their assigned gender.

I am in the camp that gender is not assigned at birth, rather it is recognized.  In a very few cases of ambiguous genitalia gender may not be readily apparent and it can be mislabled or misrecognized by those filling out a birth certificate.  Still, in a general sense I guess you and I have a different definition of assigned. 

 

I am also in the camp that gender can be different than sex, and I believe your use of the terms helps confuse this discussion, but again, its not for me to tell you how to interact here.

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27 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I am in the camp that gender is not assigned at birth, rather it is recognized.  In a very few cases of ambiguous genitalia gender may not be readily apparent and it can be mislabled or misrecognized by those filling out a birth certificate.  Still, in a general sense I guess you and I have a different definition of assigned. 

I'm not a woman who plays word games.  I used the word assigned, someone else used determined, you used recognize, it doesn't matter.

If there is a d, it's a boy.  A slit, girl.  If there is both or neither, well pick and hope.  We all agree that's what happens and we're all good with it.  There is nothing to argue.

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Curious what you guys think should happen to the parents that approve these surgeries?  

I’m definitely on board with not allowing kids to make the decisions on their own and would also be OK with taking the decision out of the parents’ hands and not allowing it at all, but as of now if the parents are on board with it (and as long as they’re not the main ones pushing for it), I’m not sure if I really blame them for doing what they think will make their kid happier. 

I’m sure the overwhelming majority of them don’t actually want their kid to be trans.  Are they child mutilators too or just the doctors?

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Curious what you guys think should happen to the parents that approve these surgeries?  

I’m definitely on board with not allowing kids to make the decisions on their own and would also be OK with taking the decision out of the parents’ hands and not allowing it at all, but as of now if the parents are on board with it (and as long as they’re not the main ones pushing for it), I’m not sure if I really blame them for doing what they think will make their kid happier. 

I’m sure the overwhelming majority of them don’t actually want their kid to be trans.  Are they child mutilators too or just the doctors?

Hopefully the kid likes his new gender but if the kid de-transitions, the parents are even more culpable than the doctors. The doctors are there to make money as they push their agenda, but the parents are supposed to know and protect their kids and the de-transition parents focked that up big time.

 

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3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Hopefully the kid likes his new gender but if the kid de-transitions, the parents are even more culpable than the doctors. The doctors are there to make money as they push their agenda, but the parents are supposed to know and protect their kids and the de-transition parents focked that up big time.

 

So if the kid doesn’t de-transition later the parents didn’t fock it up?

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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So if the kid doesn’t de-transition later the parents didn’t fock it up?

I think it was incredibly risky and stupid, but if everyone is happy in the end, that means the process worked as intended, and that's a good result. 

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Big money in these surgeries. 40k. Now if the sickos can get it normalized they can bring pressure to have insurance cover it. Cha-Ching. 

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I am grateful the entire issue has not been of immediate relevancy to me or my family.  I imagine families struggle with this decision, and that whatever decision they make comes with substantial doubt.  Most will not know whether their decision is correct for many years, and if incorrect may haunt them to the end of their days. Hell, even correct decisions may haunt them as even correct decisions can still lead to poor, even tradgic outcomes. I would doubt I have the wisdom to participate in such decisions.  It does concern me that persons and organizations folks turn to for education and advice in these matters may have political, religious, and financial motives which may be partially unrevealed or under-emphasized to those to whom they are giving advice. 

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15 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Again, it's not the same thing, but I also didn't really believe you were going to talk about things much to begin with so no loss.     You can look up complications with that procedure if you want - crooked dicks, nerve loss, etc..    It's a little different than an ear piercing, which is why I threw it out there as one of the many examples.  

Just trying to get a gauge of where people's lines are.  Take out that example, then.    Why would hormone therapy or puberty blockers be different than many other drugs and procedures I could put my child on when when seeking care for them.  

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I have known some queers, but the trans thing has me really confused. Does somebody need to have surgery and take hormones to be trans, or can a guy say he is trans and just start going to the girls bathroom? 

Is a drag queen just a man in a dress, or are they trans too? 

I kind of think that it just works how every individual he/she/it says it does on an individual basis. Beats the fock out of me. 

Maybe I am better off not understanding this . I don't think a grown man with man parts needs to be in the women's bathroom no matter how he feels on the inside. If one scared one of my daughters, I would have a problem with it. Not a talking problem. 

 

 

 

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