Is there a way to stop the shootings?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, Alias Detective said:

Millennial’s and younger are the problem yet you want to use their solution’s to fix it.

 

bwahahahahahashsh

What?

[wiffleball 4,790]

It would be interesting to note the number of potential shooters who have been for lack of better term ratted out by friends family and classmates. And co-workers.

Unfortunately, +no one was shot today" makes for a pretty weak I'm lead into the 5 news.

 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Was just talking to somebody the other day. I'm surprised more homeless shelters aren't getting shot up. Number one, they are at record population density. Which number two, leads to a lot of frustration. number three, they're Odyssey filled with the met jobs. Your standard brains fried by meth, your standard PTSD, your standard just plain f*** movies, all feeling like the world has f*** them over somehow.

I'm guessing economics plays into this? Big brother buy a case of Natty light been a crappy old gun? But some of these guys have to have access to firearms.

It's coming, and when it does, watch out. Talk about target-rich and defense soft.

[cbfalcon 825]

We need to think more. We need to make more requests of God. 

[drobeski 3,061]

Don't know if it would help or could be done,but I bet in all these cases a parent/ loved one/ friends/someone close to the perp knew they were focking crazy. 

These people need to step up ..see something/say something.  

If the perp is under age and the parent knew he was focked and still let them get weapons...toss them in the can and make them liable. 

[kilroy69 1,245]

Just now, drobeski said:

Don't know if it would help or could be done,but I bet in all these cases a parent/ loved one/ friends/someone close to the perp knew they were focking crazy. 

These people need to step up ..see something/say something.  

If the perp is under age and the parent knew he was focked and still let them get weapons...toss them in the can and make them liable. 

You cant do see something say something anymore because you will be labeled an Racist Sexist Homophobic or crazy shaming someone.  

 

[Casual Observer 597]

30 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

We need to think more. We need to make more requests of God. 

You need to stop accusing white people of being terrorists.  

[kutulu 1,676]

1 hour ago, frank said:

Nihilists? That must be exhausting. 

Fock me

[BLS 314]

1 hour ago, vuduchile said:

Interesting take coming from a LEO.   I think there’s some merit to what you’re suggesting but am also concerned about a return to the Wild West with so that many people packing.  

And as I’ve stated before, hand guns are really only useful for killing people.  I guess you can have fun shooting targets buts they’re not an effective weapon for hunting.   

That’s why I lean towards more towards outlawing all hand guns unless you’re a LEO.  

From your perspective, what % of the public should be armed to help prevent these mass shootings?  

How many years did it take for you to figure that out?

 

[cbfalcon 825]

19 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

You need to stop accusing white people of being terrorists.  

I’ve never accused the ethnic group of being terrorists. But I will state that terrorists are terrorists, including the terrorists that killed people in Dayton and El Paso. It’s not an accusation even, it’s fact. 

Edit it to say..I haven’t read up much in Dayton dude, so I shouldn’t be so resolute there. Frankly, that story bored me, as we’d just done the other. It’s like baseball. Takes too much effort to watch one boring game as is, but a double header is out of the question. 

[BLS 314]

I think cable news/24hr news and the severe lines drawn in the sand are a huge part of it.

At the end of the day, most of these shootings are politically driven.

Divisive politics wasn't this profound in young people like it is now.

I'd like to be able to say it's 1 thing but I don't think it is.

 

I'm not a psychologist, and I wouldn't have the first idea on where to start looking to solve "why".

I deal with the "how".  And the best "how" to stop someone trying to kill you, is to kill them first.

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

3 hours ago, mmmmm...beer said:

It's going to sound weird to non-gun non-country boys... but more concealed/open carry.  If lots of people are packing... this ends quick.

These little b!tches like to go in shooting at civs with no chance of fighting back.

Never heard of a dude going into a gun club or cabelas shooting it up.

I'd say El paso Texas has a pretty damn high percentage of carriers. He still got 20.

[vuduchile 1,945]

18 minutes ago, BLS said:

How many years did it take for you to figure that out?

 

Fock off gun nut. 

[BLS 314]

1 minute ago, vuduchile said:

Fock off gun nut. 

That was well thought out.

[vuduchile 1,945]

Just now, BLS said:

That was well thought out.

Go ahead and leave the scene now.  You’re good at that. 

[shorepatrol 1,870]

2 hours ago, avoiding injuries said:

Now that we’ve successfully banned God from everything as well as lowered our moral compass as a society, we are starting to see ramifications. IMO

Banning God( Not believing in God ) has nothing to do with moral compass.  Being a focking moron parent that doesn't instill morals or personal responsibility or consequences for ones actions does however have very severe ramifications. 

[mmmmm...beer 803]

4 hours ago, vuduchile said:

Interesting take coming from a LEO.   I think there’s some merit to what you’re suggesting but am also concerned about a return to the Wild West with so that many people packing.  

And as I’ve stated before, hand guns are really only useful for killing people.  I guess you can have fun shooting targets buts they’re not an effective weapon for hunting.   

That’s why I lean towards more towards outlawing all hand guns unless you’re a LEO.  

From your perspective, what % of the public should be armed to help prevent these mass shootings?  

Shoot bro that's a great question.  It's not like these wackos do anything in front of us.  We're never around.  How many carrying civs would we need to have a couple at every event ever?  And be trained enough to use them?

No clue... that's a pretty pie in the sky question.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,333]

Never had mass shootings until politicians started closing state run mental hospitals (even though there were a higher number of guns per capita). This trend began in 1955 and the first mass shooting (TX clocktower) occurred in 1966 I believe. 487,000 mental patients were discharged to their families or into the general public between 1955-1994 due to Deinstitutionalisation (the trend of closing state facilities). Today there are 2.2 million Americans in need of institutional mental health care without resources. We can spend almost $1 trillion a year on the Pentagon budget and a failed "war on drugs" though.

[sderk 1,040]

4 hours ago, cbfalcon said:

I’ve never accused the ethnic group of being terrorists. But I will state that terrorists are terrorists, including the terrorists that killed people in Dayton and El Paso. It’s not an accusation even, it’s fact. 

Edit it to say..I haven’t read up much in Dayton dude, so I shouldn’t be so resolute there. Frankly, that story bored me, as we’d just done the other. It’s like baseball. Takes too much effort to watch one boring game as is, but a double header is out of the question. 

Which color terrorists are killing black and hispanic people in Chicago on a daily basis?

[drobeski 3,061]

Video game nuts again ?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

8 hours ago, cbfalcon said:

We need to think more. We need to make more requests of God. 

Yes. Absolutely. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,348]

2 hours ago, drobeski said:

Video game nuts again ?

They remind me of the complete Fockin losers that couldn't get laid who did things like work at comicbook stores and wear mascara, maybe dabble with some H.  Not too many varsity athletes doing this stuff. 

[lod001 1,344]

9 hours ago, wiffleball said:

Was just talking to somebody the other day. I'm surprised more homeless shelters aren't getting shot up. Number one, they are at record population density. Which number two, leads to a lot of frustration. number three, they're Odyssey filled with the met jobs. Your standard brains fried by meth, your standard PTSD, your standard just plain f*** movies, all feeling like the world has f*** them over somehow.

I'm guessing economics plays into this? Big brother buy a case of Natty light been a crappy old gun? But some of these guys have to have access to firearms.

It's coming, and when it does, watch out. Talk about target-rich and defense soft.

Because these losers don't target other losers. There's nothing in that for them. They want to kill people who are not losers.

[bostonlager 2,664]

Less diversity equals less violence. We should take a play out of the Japan notebook and quit bringing in foreigners. 

[lod001 1,344]

8 hours ago, cbfalcon said:

I’ve never accused the ethnic group of being terrorists. But I will state that terrorists are terrorists, including the terrorists that killed people in Dayton and El Paso. It’s not an accusation even, it’s fact. 

Edit it to say..I haven’t read up much in Dayton dude, so I shouldn’t be so resolute there. Frankly, that story bored me, as we’d just done the other. It’s like baseball. Takes too much effort to watch one boring game as is, but a double header is out of the question. 

Double header. Good one.

[lod001 1,344]

The problem with everyone packing heat is if you don't kill him by the time the cops arrive, then you are a target if they see you with a gun in your hands.

[cbfalcon 825]

If we could severely limit these shootings, but the cost is losing some face in the culture war, then no deal.

So this isn’t worth discussing. The Culture War is far more important than the lives of strangers. 

[The PosterFormerlyKnownAs 78]

12 hours ago, Strike said:

It's just a message board with zero moderation so these types of people congregate there.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,348]

2 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

If we could severely limit these shootings, but the cost is losing some face in the culture war, then no deal.

So this isn’t worth discussing. The Culture War is far more important than the lives of strangers. 

Come on man, I'll give you credit for attempting to change it up, but it's still the same lame whiny schtick.  

[bandrus1 413]

In NY they recently proposed a "red flag" law that allows guns to be confiscated if somebody reports someone as a threat. I have seen in these threads that signs go missed and these things can be prevented. Yet when proactive laws such as this are passed the gun nuts go off the rails.

 

They always want it both ways

[BiPolarBear 485]

If we just ban assault rifles we will be completely safe. Get the guns all turned in, and offer a $10,000 reward to turn in your friends you know have one hidden somewhere. 

No alternatives to assault rifles for mass shootings exist. 

 

 

[Fireballer 2,641]

36 minutes ago, lod001 said:

The problem with everyone packing heat is if you don't kill him by the time the cops arrive, then you are a target if they see you with a gun in your hands.

This can be a problem.  Blue on blue shootings have happened in these occasions.

[cbfalcon 825]

46 minutes ago, lod001 said:

The problem with everyone packing heat is if you don't kill him by the time the cops arrive, then you are a target if they see you with a gun in your hands.

I’d be just as or more concerned about the Good Samaritan citizens shooting the wrong guy. You hear gunshots and see bodies, then you see a guy in a hoodie shooting, you take him out. Then find out he was just doing what you were doing. 

[Fireballer 2,641]

2 minutes ago, cbfalcon said:

 then you see a guy in a hoodie shooting,. 

Only thugs wear hoodies.  Its all good.

[BiPolarBear 485]

9 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I'd say El paso Texas has a pretty damn high percentage of carriers. He still got 20.

I believe I heard there were guys with concealed carry there in Walmart. Maybe if we give people a tax credit to carry, and there are 200 guns in a Walmart at any given time, the mass shootings will slow down a tad. The beefs over parking places and tailgating may get a little ugly, though.

[supermike80 1,896]

9 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I'd say El paso Texas has a pretty damn high percentage of carriers. He still got 20.

Yeah this is dumb and this argument is stupid.  The Dayton shooter was hit in like 30 seconds by cops.  

[MDC 7,345]

5 minutes ago, BiPolarBear said:

I believe I heard there were guys with concealed carry there in Walmart. Maybe if we give people a tax credit to carry, and there are 200 guns in a Walmart at any given time, the mass shootings will slow down a tad. The beefs over parking places and tailgating may get a little ugly, though.

That’s what I was thinking. If everyone were concealed carrying mass shootings go down but firearm accidents and routine disagreements that end up in fatalities go way up. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

21 minutes ago, MDC said:

That’s what I was thinking. If everyone were concealed carrying mass shootings go down but firearm accidents and routine disagreements that end up in fatalities go way up. 

We have plenty of conceal carry states for data.  Perhaps you can provide some. 

[MDC 7,345]

12 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

We have plenty of conceal carry states for data.  Perhaps you can provide some. 

Not sure what kind of data you want. About 5% of adults have CC permits. That’s not much of a sample size and wouldn’t tell you much about how it would play out if every adult everywhere were carrying at all times.

[Hawkeye21 2,398]

13 hours ago, Mr. Hand said:

The main stream media and the lies and hate they spread isn’t helping.

Trump shares some blame as well.