Big Guy 1,414 Posted April 10, 2020 22 hours ago, Strike said: Did you take this seriously or are you intentionally spreading false information? https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5051023/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm so you're saying he's an actor? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,639 Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Big Guy said: so you're saying he's an actor? Yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 10, 2020 Can one of yous please xplain to me how we go from a projected 2 million dead Americans to 60 thousand. The government and the media are full of shiot. Time for the revolution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 10, 2020 India has 200 deaths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: India has 200 deaths. per hour? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: Can one of yous please xplain to me how we go from a projected 2 million dead Americans to 60 thousand. The government and the media are full of shiot. Time for the revolution. Twas 40-60K. Which is the flu range. But the WelcherDC's of the world had their periods when that info came down. The 60-80K, but that didn't sell either. So the press inflated and the government raised the worst case to 240K, and the CDC started counting selfiejr's yeast infections as COVID. It's all a lie and the real total is probably under 10K in the US, with another 5K possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,536 Posted April 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Twas 40-60K. Which is the flu range. But the WelcherDC's of the world had their periods when that info came down. The 60-80K, but that didn't sell either. So the press inflated and the government raised the worst case to 240K, and the CDC started counting selfiejr's yeast infections as COVID. It's all a lie and the real total is probably under 10K in the US, with another 5K possible. Get help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 937 Posted April 10, 2020 Haven't kept up with every page so apologies if a repost. Apparently this is a new documentary released a couple of days ago that some may be interested in.I'm watching it later on YouTube but saw it on another page and wanted to share it here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: Basically reversed her "believe all women" stance that she took during Kavenaugh. Her stance now is that all women should be believed as long as it doesnt interfere with a mans due process. So, Creepy Joe is all good in her book since mere allegations have been made. SHOCKING!!! I wonder if she'll stick with this new enlightened stance next time the accused has an (R) after his name? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, nzoner said: Haven't kept up with every page so apologies if a repost. Apparently this is a new documentary released a couple of days ago that some may be interested in.I'm watching it later on YouTube but saw it on another page and wanted to share it here. I used to love documentaries. Michael Moore ruined them. I watch most with a grain of salt if I bother too at all. I once actually owned a bunch, including Moore’s. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,881 Posted April 10, 2020 On 4/8/2020 at 3:03 PM, Hardcore troubadour said: How can I say it? Certain people don’t fockin listen. The virus is spread on the basis of human behavior. What makes you think that a group of people who don’t listen to nearly anything they are told would all of a sudden start to? SF has less of “those people “. Do you need further detail? Yahoo has a comprehensive article talking about the disproportionate effect of Coronavirus on black people. At no point does the article attempt to assign any blame to them, ergo you must be incorrect. It quotes AOC and everything! The problem apparently includes that black people have a lot of health problems like Type 2 diabetes which aren't due to their lifestyle choices -- instead from the article, “Systemic racism and bias in the healthcare system have resulted in chronically poor health outcomes for Black Americans, including higher rates of asthma, high blood pressure, heart disease, and diabetes,” the letter reads. Next the left will make their Harrison Bergeron play. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-is-disproportionality-affecting-black-americans-and-eliciting-calls-for-more-data-heres-what-you-need-to-know-180415812.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_04 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Yahoo has a comprehensive article talking about the disproportionate effect of Coronavirus on black people. At no point does the article attempt to assign any blame to them, ergo you must be incorrect. It quotes AOC and everything! The problem apparently includes that black people have a lot of health problems like Type 2 diabetes which aren't due to their lifestyle choices -- instead from the article, “Systemic racism and bias in the healthcare system have resulted in chronically poor health outcomes for Black Americans, including higher rates of asthma, high blood pressure, heart disease, and diabetes,” the letter reads. Next the left will make their Harrison Bergeron play. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-is-disproportionality-affecting-black-americans-and-eliciting-calls-for-more-data-heres-what-you-need-to-know-180415812.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_04 Well, we all know there is only one thing that is responsible for what ails them. Even when the shoot each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted April 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Yahoo has a comprehensive article talking about the disproportionate effect of Coronavirus on black people. At no point does the article attempt to assign any blame to them, ergo you must be incorrect. It quotes AOC and everything! The problem apparently includes that black people have a lot of health problems like Type 2 diabetes which aren't due to their lifestyle choices -- instead from the article, “Systemic racism and bias in the healthcare system have resulted in chronically poor health outcomes for Black Americans, including higher rates of asthma, high blood pressure, heart disease, and diabetes,” the letter reads. Next the left will make their Harrison Bergeron play. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/coronavirus-is-disproportionality-affecting-black-americans-and-eliciting-calls-for-more-data-heres-what-you-need-to-know-180415812.html?.tsrc=daily_mail&uh_test=1_04 I did hear some responsible answers/questions for some of the disparity in numbers earlier on ABC News. They actually had several black doctors and scientists describing the issue and not one mentioned racism or oppression. I have to see if I can find the thing because it must be like a unicorn. Everything else has been total sh!t filled with reverse racism. Just saw something in my email that made me want to puke. It is a summary of an article in the Boston Globe. I can assure you that I won't read it now. Quote Jeneé Osterheldt With coronavirus, racism is the underlying condition The inevitable has happened. Early data show Black and Latinx people are being infected and dying at higher rates. Hyde Park, Mattapan, and East Boston are already seeing high clusters of infection. Coronavirus is incapable of racism. But America is rooted in oppressive systems that were designed to hurt and disenfranchise Black folk and people of color. The health care system has always been part of that practice. Read the full story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted April 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: I did hear some responsible answers/questions for some of the disparity in numbers earlier on ABC News. They actually had several black doctors and scientists describing the issue and not one mentioned racism or oppression. I have to see if I can find the thing because it must be like a unicorn. Everything else has been total sh!t filled with reverse racism. Just saw something in my email that made me want to puke. It is a summary of an article in the Boston Globe. I can assure you that I won't read it now. Is there anything stupider than the left's insistence on making up new words like "Latinx"??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,414 Posted April 10, 2020 On 4/1/2020 at 8:09 AM, Alias Detective said: I’ve posted on this before. 160,000 people die each year in the US to respiratory complications. If we lose 200,000 Americans to Covid19 that would mean only an additional 40,000 Americans died from covid19. give or take a little.... On 4/5/2020 at 8:36 AM, Alias Detective said: In case you missed my post 4 days ago. Anyone still want to disagree? Ahem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 10, 2020 Racist my ass. In Minnesota, over 70% of the cases are white folk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,881 Posted April 10, 2020 33 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: I did hear some responsible answers/questions for some of the disparity in numbers earlier on ABC News. They actually had several black doctors and scientists describing the issue and not one mentioned racism or oppression. I have to see if I can find the thing because it must be like a unicorn. Everything else has been total sh!t filled with reverse racism. Just saw something in my email that made me want to puke. It is a summary of an article in the Boston Globe. I can assure you that I won't read it now. Thanks. Regarding our bet, I'm liking my odds more and more every day, but would you be OK changing it to $50 vs. $100? With me looking for work and hiring being... umm... sporadic at best these days, if September rolls around and things are still a shiot show on the job front, I don't want to have to tell my wife I owe $100. She knows about the bet in general, and I don't think $50 has nearly as bad a sound. More of an optics/home happiness thing, which I think you can appreciate. If not, I'll honor the bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Thanks. Regarding our bet, I'm liking my odds more and more every day, but would you be OK changing it to $50 vs. $100? With me looking for work and hiring being... umm... sporadic at best these days, if September rolls around and things are still a shiot show on the job front, I don't want to have to tell my wife I owe $100. She knows about the bet in general, and I don't think $50 has nearly as bad a sound. More of an optics/home happiness thing, which I think you can appreciate. If not, I'll honor the bet. Think of the children. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,639 Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Thanks. Regarding our bet, I'm liking my odds more and more every day, but would you be OK changing it to $50 vs. $100? With me looking for work and hiring being... umm... sporadic at best these days, if September rolls around and things are still a shiot show on the job front, I don't want to have to tell my wife I owe $100. She knows about the bet in general, and I don't think $50 has nearly as bad a sound. More of an optics/home happiness thing, which I think you can appreciate. If not, I'll honor the bet. I'll take half the bet off your hands if needed Jerry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,623 Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, NorthernVike said: Can one of yous please xplain to me how we go from a projected 2 million dead Americans to 60 thousand. The government and the media are full of shiot. Time for the revolution. The models take into account the social distancing. So now that we are shutting everything down there are less deaths. If everything was opened back up then the models would predict more deaths. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted April 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Thanks. Regarding our bet, I'm liking my odds more and more every day, but would you be OK changing it to $50 vs. $100? With me looking for work and hiring being... umm... sporadic at best these days, if September rolls around and things are still a shiot show on the job front, I don't want to have to tell my wife I owe $100. She knows about the bet in general, and I don't think $50 has nearly as bad a sound. More of an optics/home happiness thing, which I think you can appreciate. If not, I'll honor the bet. Fine with me. We can make it $20 if you want. I don’t want a guy who is out of work to be worrying about a bet even though it is likely to be me paying up. I would gladly pay $50 to charity for this thing to have a much lower impact than estimated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Elevator Killer 571 Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: I didn't mean to quote you Jerry. I just looked out my window and the guy across the street was outside talking to someone about tinting the windows in his car. They had their heads inches from each other as they looked at the windows. This is why black people are getting more than others. They aren't taken it seriously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, MTSkiBum said: The models take into account the social distancing. So now that we are shutting everything down there are less deaths. If everything was opened back up then the models would predict more deaths. Social distancing has made that much of a difference on 2 weeks. The models were way off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,639 Posted April 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Reality said: Social distancing has made that much of a difference on 2 weeks. The models were way off. Social distancing and WFH have been around much longer than two weeks. My work started recommending that everyone work from home a month ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,639 Posted April 10, 2020 https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-blood-purification-device-treat-covid-19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,881 Posted April 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Strike said: I'll take half the bet off your hands if needed Jerry. Thanks Strike but since I put it out there and PFB accepted... 1 hour ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Fine with me. We can make it $20 if you want. I don’t want a guy who is out of work to be worrying about a bet even though it is likely to be me paying up. I would gladly pay $50 to charity for this thing to have a much lower impact than estimated. ... thanks, let's do $50. We both hope I win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,639 Posted April 10, 2020 Philly dooshbag cops forcibly removing people not wearing masks. Supposedly there was a rule put in place about it but they didn't bother to tell the public. https://www.inquirer.com/transportation/septa-face-masks-requirement-coronavirus-20200410.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Strike said: Philly dooshbag cops forcibly removing people not wearing masks. Supposedly there was a rule put in place about it but they didn't bother to tell the public. https://www.inquirer.com/transportation/septa-face-masks-requirement-coronavirus-20200410.html Someone told them too. Things like that are ordered further up the food chain. Point your arrow where it belongs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,639 Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Someone told them too. Things like that are ordered further up the food chain. Point your arrow where it belongs. No sh*t. Beat cops are just that. Beat cops. That doesn't make them not dooshes. And the people above them are dooshes too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,519 Posted April 10, 2020 Just now, Strike said: No sh*t. Beat cops are just that. Beat cops. That doesn't make them not dooshes. And the people above them are dooshes too. Yeah. Everyone should just do their own thing, no matter what they are ordered to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,623 Posted April 11, 2020 Heart attacks and percent of heart attacks that result in death are up close to 9 fold compared to last year. It could be that many deaths related to covid-19 are being missed and counted as other causes of death. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cardiac-calls-911-new-york-city-surge-they-may-really-n1179286 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,335 Posted April 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Fireballer said: Basically reversed her "believe all women" stance that she took during Kavenaugh. Her stance now is that all women should be believed as long as it doesnt interfere with a mans due process. So, Creepy Joe is all good in her book since mere allegations have been made. Believe all women if the accused is a Republican. If the accused is a Democrat, you need blood samples or video footage or a semen stained dress and properly filled out forms from a police station a few hours after the incident in which case, we'll take it under advisement. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,335 Posted April 11, 2020 9 hours ago, NorthernVike said: Can one of yous please xplain to me how we go from a projected 2 million dead Americans to 60 thousand. The government and the media are full of shiot. Time for the revolution. I nominate NortherVike to choose who makes up the 1,940,000 differential. He comes across a guy with a talent for deciding this sort of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted April 11, 2020 48 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: Heart attacks and percent of heart attacks that result in death are up close to 9 fold compared to last year. It could be that many deaths related to covid-19 are being missed and counted as other causes of death. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cardiac-calls-911-new-york-city-surge-they-may-really-n1179286 And this probably off sets the record low in the number of pneumonia deaths this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,623 Posted April 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bert said: And this probably off sets the record low in the number of pneumonia deaths this year. Where do you see this? When I look at CDC and other medical sites the data i read is the opposite, that there may be cases of covid-19 that are still being misdiagnosed as pneumonia. Quote The percentage of deaths related to pneumonia and influenza rose from 7.3% to 8.2% — above the epidemic threshold of 7.2%. "The increase is due to an increase in pneumonia deaths rather than influenza deaths and may be associated with COVID-19," the CDC explained in the report. https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928241 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 11, 2020 8 hours ago, MTSkiBum said: The models take into account the social distancing. So now that we are shutting everything down there are less deaths. If everything was opened back up then the models would predict more deaths. Bullshit. They had that factored in from the beginning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 11, 2020 51 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I nominate NortherVike to choose who makes up the 1,940,000 differential. He comes across a guy with a talent for deciding this sort of thing. I'll give you a pass. You live.....for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, MTSkiBum said: Heart attacks and percent of heart attacks that result in death are up close to 9 fold compared to last year. It could be that many deaths related to covid-19 are being missed and counted as other causes of death. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cardiac-calls-911-new-york-city-surge-they-may-really-n1179286 It's from all the stress the media is putting on people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,128 Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: Where do you see this? When I look at CDC and other sites the data i read is the opposite, that there may be cases of covid-19 that are still being misdiagnosed as pneumonia. An ER doctor friend of mine in Tulsa. It was part of a long discussion about pneumonia historically being listed as the cause of death when in reality many of the people that reportedly died from on pneumonia only got pneumonia because they had the flu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites