TBayXXXVII 2,683 Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, BufordT said: He's claiming the NYG already told Daboll he was hired while they were yet to have their final interview Flores. So he's claiming that the Rooney rule is racist then? Because, that's the reason he got interviewed. It's because the Rooney rule exists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 444 Posted February 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: So he's claiming that the Rooney rule is racist then? I'm sure that is clearly what he and his lawyers are claiming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,330 Posted February 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: So he's claiming that the Rooney rule is racist then? Because, that's the reason he got interviewed. It's because the Rooney rule exists. This. He's put the NFL in a pickle over their overtly racist pandering "rule". He's basically saying it was racism to interview him when they clearly wanted Daboll (due to new GM relationship) but THE NYG FOCKING HAD TO due to the Rooney Rule. I'm sure ESPN would ejaculate claiming RACISM if NYG hired white dude without interviewing black dude if they HADN'T had the "sham" interview Can't have it both ways sunshine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 1,019 Posted February 2, 2022 Flores isn't very smart. But I still think he'd be a good slave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, vomit said: He'll never even get another interview. And he shouldn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,117 Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Djgb13 said: Tons of black HCs in NFL There’s one black HC in the NFL. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, MDC said: There’s one black HC in the NFL. That tells me there is one qualified black guy to be a head coach then. Flores just did a big disservice to any newcomers that are qualified. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted February 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, MDC said: There’s one black HC in the NFL. Currently but there’s been a good bit. Meant to rephrase that but took a shower instead 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,330 Posted February 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, MDC said: There’s one black HC in the NFL. You're 100% correct. How many Asian HC are there? Gotta have perfect inclusion. What about gheys? What about trannys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,996 Posted February 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, DonS said: You're 100% correct. How many Asian HC are there? Gotta have perfect inclusion. What about gheys? What about trannys? Diversity is our strength. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,330 Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Cdub100 said: Diversity is our strength. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted February 2, 2022 What they were claiming (no proof) on the radio is that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross (who is a Michigan alum or something), approached Brian Flores during his rookie year as head coach (I think) and asked him to contact Tom Brady while he was still employed by the Patriots to get him to come to Miami. Flores said no because he didn't want to jeopardize his career. And then of course the accusation that Ross tried to bribe Flores to tank games for $100,000 per game. Flores said no to that too. This is where he gets fired and Ross says about Flores that “an organization can only function if it’s collaborative and works well together.” https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2022/1/10/22876955/brian-flores-fired-miami-dolphins-stephen-ross Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted February 2, 2022 Kinda makes you think about all the nasty stuff that goes on behind closed doors that doesn't get reported. NFL Network’s Steve Wyche said that “coaches don’t often get fired for coaching reasons.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,339 Posted February 2, 2022 The problem here is he’s trying to sue because “racism” which we all know is bullsh1t. If he would have tried suing because of one of those reasons then nobody would bat an eye because it’s justified. Racism? Nah not in the focking slightest 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 897 Posted February 2, 2022 progress!!! hilarious. isnt like 90% of league black?? should we have rooney rule for each position??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 3,018 Posted February 2, 2022 I just don't get it. There have been times where several NFL teams had a black head coach at the same time. Usually, poor performance gets them fired, like any head coach regardless of the color of their skin. Flores did a good job, I thought, in Miami..... but as far as the NFL's "racist" tendencies, and the Rooney rule. I think the Rooney rule almost makes things seem worse for the sake of causing uproars. The Rooney rule only states that teams have to seriously interview one minority candidate, correct? So when we become hyper focused on the rule, we scrutinize every teams hiring decision... and no team should feel pressured to hire someone they really don't want because of the color of their skin. If the Giants wanted Daboll, especially because of the Buffalo duo, why shouldn't that be the best decision for their organization? Are we supposed to force teams to hire minority coaches until they become the majority? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,062 Posted February 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: Kinda makes you think about all the nasty stuff that goes on behind closed doors that doesn't get reported. NFL Network’s Steve Wyche said that “coaches don’t often get fired for coaching reasons.” Didn’t Marty Shottenheimer get fired after winning 14 games one year? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Didn’t Marty Shottenheimer get fired after winning 14 games one year? The GM absolutely hated him and tried to get him fired. The owners refused and instead of moving on and working with him the GM refused to speak to him or acknowledge his presence. Really. A full grown man making a 7 figure salary in a high profile job really did this. After a year of that the owners decided one of them had to go. The GM had been on a tear in the draft and had built what many thought was the most talented roster in the league at that point, and Schottenheimer was looked at as a guy who couldn't win in the playoffs, so they fired the coach. It didn't work. Part of the beef was: Marty loved Brees, said Brees had the chops to be as fine a QB the NFL has ever seen. AJ wanted all his own guys in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, listen2me 23 said: He will be hired by Texans or Saints this very year. You're a complete idiot. 0% chance this happens Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,447 Posted February 2, 2022 1 hour ago, shorepatrol said: That tells me there is one qualified black guy to be a head coach then. Flores just did a big disservice to any newcomers that are qualified. lol no he didn’t. The big story here is being offered $100k/game to lose. That’s gotta be a pretty serious offense right if there’s any proof? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,062 Posted February 2, 2022 It’s all so boring at this point. Not the being paid to lose part, the racism part. Fockin baby. Grow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s all so boring at this point. There is more than just the racism charge. The integrity of the game is also at stake here with Ross trying to bribe his head coach to lose games on purpose. That's a REALLY big deal in the modern game with gambling becoming more important than ever. The last thing they want to do is make everyone question if the NFL is real or pro wrestling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: lol no he didn’t. The big story here is being offered $100k/game to lose. That’s gotta be a pretty serious offense right if there’s any proof? Class action law suit for racism with no basis. He's done. Glad you said "if" there is any proof. Your gaslighting as usual 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted February 2, 2022 Dolphins owner Ross (again, a michigan alum) was pushing hard for jim harbaugh but with this, it's almost certain harbaugh goes to the vikings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted February 2, 2022 The NFL might be forced to go to a lottery-style draft because of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 2, 2022 6 hours ago, TimHauck said: lol no he didn’t. The big story here is being offered $100k/game to lose. That’s gotta be a pretty serious offense right if there’s any proof? Who cares if they choose to lose if it's the right strategy for the team in the long run? Get in line with the company goals or get out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted February 2, 2022 7 hours ago, JustinCharge said: The NFL might be forced to go to a lottery-style draft because of this. Imagine if they only had to hire based on ability.....and not skin color....it would be like....non-racist.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vomit 502 Posted February 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Utilit99 said: Who cares if they choose to lose if it's the right strategy for the team in the long run? Get in line with the company goals or get out. Util99 has zero integrity, real shocker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,656 Posted February 2, 2022 10 hours ago, WhiteWonder said: Are we supposed to force teams to hire minority coaches until they become the majority? What if 13% got 58% of the wins? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, vomit said: Util99 has zero integrity, real shocker That's it. I'm filing a class action suit against you for disagreeing!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TommyGavin 790 Posted February 2, 2022 What a way to kick off Black History Month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, TommyGavin said: What a way to kick off Black History Month. Black history is black people in Africa enslaved and sold their own people to the rest of the world. End of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,783 Posted February 2, 2022 13 hours ago, avoiding injuries said: Happens all the time in the real world. Candidates blow away the hiring manager during the interview. Or as I just read down the thread, they have a prior relationship. That's why retread failed coaches are all over the NFL. Ron Rivera should not be within 100 miles of an NFL stadium. He's obviously a great guy and great interview. Terrible coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,046 Posted February 2, 2022 15 hours ago, TimmySmith said: It's time to get rid of it. There are enough diverse hires. all the latino and asian coaches? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted February 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, edjr said: all the latino and asian coaches? And why have we not yet seen more native americans, or Philipinos, or aboriginal.....I mean there are so many groups to bring in while we ignore merit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 7,046 Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, RLLD said: And why have we not yet seen more native americans, or Philipinos, or aboriginal.....I mean there are so many groups to bring in while we ignore merit... Doesn't matter their qualifications. DEI insists Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,447 Posted February 2, 2022 27 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: That's why retread failed coaches are all over the NFL. Ron Rivera should not be within 100 miles of an NFL stadium. He's obviously a great guy and great interview. Terrible coach. We’ll just in terms of the Panthers, Rivera is about 5x the coach that Matt Rhule is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,447 Posted February 2, 2022 11 hours ago, shorepatrol said: Class action law suit for racism with no basis. He's done. Glad you said "if" there is any proof. Your gaslighting as usual Flores probably is done, but him suing should have no impact on other coaches. If anything this might force more teams to actually hire more minority coaches. I mean an allegation coming from the head coach should be taken seriously. 4 hours ago, Utilit99 said: Who cares if they choose to lose if it's the right strategy for the team in the long run? Get in line with the company goals or get out. I get sending out crappy teams, but they still need to try to win. Getting paid to lose has gotta be considered game fixing or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,160 Posted February 2, 2022 A business run by old white men cant possibly be raciss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,283 Posted February 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: A business run by old white men cant possibly be raciss. I mean if it were, there would not be any black players right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
