RaiderHaters Revenge 4,543 Posted February 15, 2018 I have eight and most of those werent mass shootings. How about banning all automatic / semi automatic weapons and holding gun owners criminally accountable if their legally owned weapons are used in a crime? I feel the pain, I do, honestly I am ok with an AR type ban at this point, but what you are suggesting is that we are only allowed shotguns and revolvers, cause 99% of all fire arms are semi-automatic. That term is a scare term Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted February 15, 2018 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-white-nationalist-republic-of-florida/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,626 Posted February 15, 2018 I feel the pain, I do, honestly I am ok with an AR type ban at this point, but what you are suggesting is that we are only allowed shotguns and revolvers, cause 99% of all fire arms are semi-automatic. That term is a scare term I provided links showing that stat was wrong the last time you stated that. The majority of fire arms are not semi-automatic, you cant just make stuff up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted February 15, 2018 Footnote.... https://www.wired.com/story/pro-gun-russian-bots-flood-twitter-after-parkland-shooting/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,911 Posted February 15, 2018 Another kid who's father wasn't around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,882 Posted February 15, 2018 I feel the pain, I do, honestly I am ok with an AR type ban at this point, but what you are suggesting is that we are only allowed shotguns and revolvers, cause 99% of all fire arms are semi-automatic. That term is a scare term I am fine with only shotguns / revolvers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,594 Posted February 15, 2018 I am fine with only shotguns / revolvers. 57 seconds in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,898 Posted February 15, 2018 Footnote.... https://www.wired.com/story/pro-gun-russian-bots-flood-twitter-after-parkland-shooting/ Why are they doing human centipede? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted February 15, 2018 I am fine with only shotguns / revolvers. I posted this earlier: "They" don't care. The end game is to ban as many guns as possible, so for every iteration of the ban being accurate doesn't matter. If it overshoots the current targeted guns so what. "They" were going to get to whatever guns weren't intended to be included in the ban at some point anyways. And then "they" wonder why there is so much pushback against "reasonable" gun control. Wow, how prophetic. I can't even count how many times I won this thread!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,882 Posted February 15, 2018 I posted this earlier: Wow, how prophetic. I can't even count how many times I won this thread!!!! Congrats I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,935 Posted February 15, 2018 I think the part that would piss me off the most if I was one of those kids that got shot is that... Bro come on you started shooting at 2:20. Made me go to school all day and then shoot me? Clip me at like 8:45 a.m. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted February 15, 2018 That's not surprising. I know. If Drobeski didn't win a thread, most likely I did. :banana: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted February 15, 2018 So is the FACT that gun violence is way down despite the number of guns being WAY UP in America, a fact conveniently ignored by gun control proponents in every discussion about the issue. Again, a stupid argument. Parotid by people who are fed talking points all day. First, compare way down to any other country on the planet. Going from a million to half a million gun shootings per day is way the fuk down, but retardedly ridiculous against any other country in the world. Yes, I'm making the number up for effect. Gun ownership being way up doesn't mean . Look at gun ownership per capita. That's a relevant statistic. The fact that a moron like you my own 17 guns only means you can only fire one gun at a time. Look at per capita gun ownership then come and talk to me. But the NRA probably won't send you those talking points. I'm too Smart for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted February 15, 2018 Again, a stupid ###### argument. Parotid by people who are fed talking points all day. First, compare way down to any other ###### country on the planet. Going from a million to half a million gun shootings per day is way the fuk down, but retardedly ridiculous against any other country in the world. Yes, I'm making the number up for effect. Gun ownership being way up doesn't mean ######. Look at gun ownership per capita. That's a relevant statistic. The fact that a moron like you my own 17 guns only means you can only fire one gun at a time. Look at per capita gun ownership then come and talk to me. But the NRA probably won't send you those talking points. I'm too ###### Smart for you. 1) I don't own any guns. 2) What is our per capita gun ownership and how has it changed over the last 25 years? Sounds like you're well versed on those statistics. TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted February 15, 2018 Maybe if the FBI wasnt so busy going after Trump they could have stopped this! You and filthy are hilarious and how quickly you gobble down whatever fluffernutter bulshit Hannity sends your way. One guy sends shity messages to the woman he's cheating on his wife with and suddenly according to Trump it's the whole FBI against him. G, does that play into every narrative he's ever thrown out? When your dirtiest Inn, vilify the accuser. Remember when he said how much he loved the FBI? Which is it? Seriously? Do you have any idea how many FBI agents were anti-clinton? But they didn't pull that whiny bullshit. Oh wait, yes they did. Instead of the deep State, Hillary had the vast right-wing conspiracy. You guys are all sheep. Maybe you should use your brains for something huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted February 15, 2018 57 seconds in Joey Chestnut can eat 1 bazillion hotdogs in 2 minutes too. Whats that got to do with the rest of us? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 Can anyone disagree we need a better system of keeping these emo loner focks from getting their hands on these weapons? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted February 15, 2018 Can anyone disagree we need a better system of keeping these emo loner focks from getting their hands on these weapons? If you got one, throw it out there. But we already have a system and, in this case, it wasn't followed. No reason this kid shouldn't have been prohibited from owning a gun given his history but, once again, despite being informed of his existence our law enforcement agencies dropped the ball. The result was 17 unnecessary deaths. In Washington state, law enforcement acted and prevented a similar situation. The system worked. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,882 Posted February 15, 2018 If you got one, throw it out there. But we already have a system and, in this case, it wasn't followed. No reason this kid shouldn't have been prohibited from owning a gun given his history but, once again, despite being informed of his existence our law enforcement agencies dropped the ball. The result was 17 unnecessary deaths. In Washington state, law enforcement acted and prevented a similar situation. The system worked. If AR15 type auto/semi auto rifles werent on the market it is very likely he would have killed fewer people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 I personally don't see a need for such a weapon but realize a person hell bent on killing will find a way. There's no solution to it.....horrible but true. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted February 15, 2018 Trust that if a gun nut geeks kid ever gets wasted in a school shooting, you will see a change of tune from them to the complete opposite stance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,882 Posted February 15, 2018 I personally don't see a need for such a weapon but realize a person hell bent on killing will find a way. There's no solution to it.....horrible but true. Whenever there is a shooting I hear Of AR15s and similar weapons were banned they would just use a knife! What ch makes me wonder why there are so few mass stabbing as compared to shootings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 Whenever there is a shooting I hear Of AR15s and similar weapons were banned they would just use a knife! What ch makes me wonder why there are so few mass stabbing as compared to shootings? There have been mass shootings involving pistols but I know what you mean. Surprising one of these nutjobs hasn't tried incinerating a building by igniting the gas supply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,432 Posted February 15, 2018 There have been mass shootings involving pistols but I know what you mean. Surprising one of these nutjobs hasn't tried incinerating a building by igniting the gas supply. Well they will now...good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted February 15, 2018 If AR15 type auto/semi auto rifles werent on the market it is very likely he would have killed fewer people. This is blatant speculation. According to the master firearms instructor in this article, the AR-15 isn't even the best weapon for these events. They're only used for copy cat purposes: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/14/ar-15-mass-shootings/339519002/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted February 15, 2018 Well they will now...good job. Emo loners (present company excluded) typically don't frequent lightly trafficked message boards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,882 Posted February 15, 2018 This is blatant speculation. According to the master firearms instructor in this article, the AR-15 isn't even the best weapon for these events. They're only used for copy cat purposes: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/14/ar-15-mass-shootings/339519002/ It is blatant speculation that an AR15 is going to be more effective at killing lots of people in a short period of time than a no automatic weapon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,019 Posted February 15, 2018 It is blatant speculation that an AR15 is going to be more effective at killing lots of people in a short period of time than a no automatic weapon? Yes, it's blatant speculation, especially when you consider that the AR-15 is only semi automatic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,882 Posted February 15, 2018 Yes, it's blatant speculation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted February 15, 2018 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-school-shooting-suspect-nikolas-cruz-white-nationalist-republic-of-florida/great another suddenly white hispanix Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted February 15, 2018 great another suddenly white hispanix Ted Cruz approved Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 827 Posted February 15, 2018 Ignore the fact that she is pointing her words at Trump (this isn't on him) and try not to focus on her metal detector talk, etc...But this video of one of the victims moms is worth watching. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/02/15/victims-mother-trump-do-something-florida-shooting-sot-nr.cnn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 7,084 Posted February 15, 2018 Ignore the fact that she is pointing her words at Trump (this isn't on him) and try not to focus on her metal detector talk, etc...But this video of one of the victims moms is worth watching. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/02/15/victims-mother-trump-do-something-florida-shooting-sot-nr.cnn Why is that worth watching? I'm not trying to be an ass, just asking. If you take out the Trump and metal detector talk you get a grieving mom who is understandably distraught. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,911 Posted February 15, 2018 I don't even bother watching the news when these shootings occur. They're all the same, and neither side is going to budge. Whats the point? Nothing ever gets done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted February 15, 2018 The kid bought the AR15 legally, think about that. It’s easier to buy an AR15 than it is to buy a handgun. What a messed up situation. No one needs an AR15, why even sell them at all? They mentioned the name of the gun store, watch it’s sales spike up, compounding the problem. What a screwed up situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 15, 2018 Ignore the fact that she is pointing her words at Trump (this isn't on him) and try not to focus on her metal detector talk, etc...But this video of one of the victims moms is worth watching. https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/02/15/victims-mother-trump-do-something-florida-shooting-sot-nr.cnn I think if what I heard earlier was true...there are words that need to be pointed at Trump. Still confirming if this is true so take it with a tiny grain of salt. His budget proposal includes slashing funding for mental health as well as cites to funding for background checks that are used for gun purchases. Ifthose things are true...they should be brought up in this type of discussions n. As for the woman...its always hard listening to victims families...their words are important from the standpoint of what are we doing to prevent this ...why does it continue happening (and neither side has the solution but it seems its discussed for a minute and then tossed away til the next incident) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted February 15, 2018 I don't even bother watching the news when these shootings occur. They're all the same, and neither side is going to budge. Whats the point? Nothing ever gets doneWhich is why we need to stop this attitude of nothing will change so why do anything.We should be writing and calling and emailing our cingressmen. We should be speaking out about safety and mental health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,543 Posted February 15, 2018 I provided links showing that stat was wrong the last time you stated that. The majority of fire arms are not semi-automatic, you cant just make stuff up. almost every pistol and rifle are made semi-automatic, if there is a clip its semi-auto period. Even Revolvers are semi-automatic. the only thing that makes a gun not semi-automatic is if you have to load 1 shot at a time, then fire and repack. Lets go back to muskets again semi-automatic is a scare word Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,995 Posted February 16, 2018 The uneducated anti gun people in this thread don't realize all the laws they want passed have already passed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,173 Posted February 16, 2018 almost every pistol and rifle are made semi-automatic, if there is a clip its semi-auto period. Even Revolvers are semi-automatic. the only thing that makes a gun not semi-automatic is if you have to load 1 shot at a time, then fire and repack. Lets go back to muskets again semi-automatic is a scare word This so wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites