Coronavirus - Doomsday

[MTSkiBum 1,623]

1 minute ago, Kanil said:

I read the Gates foundation is close to getting in home test kits out. 

That would be a good start, 3 weeks too late, but a good start.

[MTSkiBum 1,623]

On 2/7/2020 at 3:01 PM, MTSkiBum said:

I think this is going to get pretty bad, my wife thinks I am crazy though.

 

I am wrong alot, I hope I am wrong this time.

 

On 2/7/2020 at 3:11 PM, Casual Observer said:

I hope your wife doesn't eat Bat Soup, or whatever strange Chinese culinary delight started this whole thing.

Quote for Sux.

[MTSkiBum 1,623]

17 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

You have always seemed to me to be one of the most rational posters here. 
That being said, should I be nervous that you think this is really a "thing" or should I think that you are buying into the hype and choosing your sources to believe based on your own fear? 

I you bro, but I think I'm going to remain "ignorant" to this and go about my normal pathetic life. We'll talk in a few months, assuming we are both still alive. 

If you read my posts in this thread, many of which have been quoted like the above post, my worries predate the media by about a month. I do not think this is a media issue.

 

We will most likely will be fine, this will not be an issue at an individual level, but at a societal level. My parents in particular are finally ready to retire and were going to buy a home near my house. Do you know how pissed I would be if my life-long fishing buddy died 1 year before his retirement/moving to houston. My dad and I have been planning for a decade about buying an offshore boat, etc.

 

My wife's parents are slightly older at 70. They are at greater risk. They are still young enough to drive across the state 4 times a year to spend a week with their grandkids. My kids love their grandparents and they are still an immense help at that age. They have 5-10 really good years left with their grand kids.

 

I also have 2 grand parents alive. Both still in their house and are not in a nursing home(which will help somewhat), but they are 87 and 90 years old and living independently. This obviously is of extreme concern to them,

[shorepatrol 1,871]

23 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

Really, what I want to know is why are there no testing kits at this stage

It's a manufactured hoax. That's why. I'm furious the way it's hitting the economy. 

[MTSkiBum 1,623]

2 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

Why not? Restricting travel is a reasonable precaution. And no one is saying it's all media hype.

 

 

6 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

It's a manufactured hoax. That's why. I'm furious the way it's hitting the economy. 

 

It is not a hoax, but some people still think it is.

[naomi 356]

There's records of people thinking the Spanish Flu was being overblown early on.

Really good interview: 

 

[shotsup 832]

2 hours ago, Kanil said:

I like how all you jackwagons are virus experts now. I'm sure you all know so much more than the CDC.  Dunning-Krueger in full effect in the geek club. 

:Lysol:

[naomi 356]

Sidenote on the media blowing this up...I hadn't read or watched the media. Mostly just disease research professionals...individuals, on Twitter. Focusing on Wuhan's problem. That's when some people started being concerned (the more knowledgeable, the more concerned). 

[Intense Observer 344]

3 hours ago, MTSkiBum said:

The stock market does not care about stimulus. It wants action.

 

Everyone can see that we are 2 weeks behind Italy. There is still a very small window where this is only a slight disaster and not a catastrophe.

So you think we will have 800 deaths in the next 14 days?

[shorepatrol 1,871]

39 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

 

 

It is not a hoax, but some people still think it is.

It is. Stock up on tp 

[Intense Observer 344]

3 hours ago, ZeroTolerance said:

If it spreads like it did in China or is doing in Italy, the real problem is that health care systems will be overwhelmed. Even if only a small segment of the population will have serious illness from the virus, that segment is much more than enough to back up intensive care units and ERs nationwide (which then limits/prevents care for people critically ill for other reasons).

This is such drama queen bullshite.

The regular flu has killed 500x more than beer flu and infected 20000x more than beer flu. This year.

80% of deaths from beer flu are people over the age of 80.

The majority of people needing hospitalization are people with underlying conditions.

97% of known cases survived. 

The media and politicians are treating this like a ricin outbreak when in reality it is a JV version of the same flu that hits us every year.

Fock all the media and internet epidemiologists who are trying to cause a mass panic.

A month from now this will all be a laughing stock and you faggits will have moved on to something else.

 

 

[Intense Observer 344]

1 hour ago, MTSkiBum said:

I am listening to people that spent their lives researching this, most of my quotes in this thread are from epidemiologists, medical journals, and doctors. 

 

Many people have different opinions. To fit with the theme of the site a good example is the NFL, there are scouts that spend their whole lives researching players and yet their teams draft crappy every year.

 

I think other governments and the WHO have had better coverage/recommendations when it comes to this.

 

Really, what I want to know is why are there no testing kits at this stage, it is focking ridiculous.

What will a testing kit do?

If you have a fever, shortness of breath, sore throat, and a cough then stay the fock home.

Do you really need the government to give you a test in order to come to that conclusion.

Jesus Christ you are a sky screaming biotch.

[mmmmm...beer 808]

Went and picked up three 25 lbs big bags of rice... and two 25 lb bags of red beans...  I don't trust they won't shut down shipping/trucking.  How much of our product do we get from China and EU as well?

Bought these to store...

https://www.amazon.com/Gallon-White-Bucket-Lid-Durable/dp/B06XHFTH7N

https://www.amazon.com/Dry-Packs-10-2000cc-Oxy-Sorb-Absorbers-Dehydrated/dp/B001Y0Y8C6

 

Anyway... we already have 3 months of emergency food for 4 people... this is just extra.  Oh and a shitton of bullion and salt.

I don't give a ...lasts a pile of uears... if we never ever use it... it goes to a food pantry and I'm out $100 bucks... whooooptie doo...

[mmmmm...beer 808]

National Guard in NY enforcing quarantine?

You know this probably won't be a thing... but not feom lack of this global panic attack teyung to cause it to be flumageddon.

[Utilit99 4,099]

9 hours ago, fandandy said:

Was that Morgan Freeman?  Someone in the comments section mentioned it was.

Hell yeah it was. 

[drobeski 3,061]

Enemy of the people. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/don-lemon-loses-it-after-john-kasich-says-he-liked-trumps-coronavirus-speech

Scumbags like lemon should be locked up. They're more dangerous to society than this virus. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

7 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Enemy of the people. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/don-lemon-loses-it-after-john-kasich-says-he-liked-trumps-coronavirus-speech

Scumbags like lemon should be locked up. They're more dangerous to society than this virus. 

I couldn't even watch that full video. I just turned it off. Lemonhead kept saying "WE are here to talk about it", but wouldn't let Kasich talk after he didn't like what he was hearing. If I never hear from that guy again it will be too soon.

 

[Voltaire 5,322]

6 hours ago, fandandy said:

What's your gut tell you?  Does the worst seem to be over?  What is the government telling the people?  When do you expect life to begin to get back to normal?

 

My gut has me feeling like it's pretty much over. I feel like there's no safer place in the world right now than non-Hubei China. Also, I think the official numbers are real and not fake. In part because I've seen the overwhelming response first hand. In part also because the WHO visited Chengdu on their trip to China and talking about the empty hospital beds and lack of patients to test gave me confidence the Chinese really do have things under control.

The big test is to come. Once schools start re-opening, once factories start up again, and venues start opening.... that's when we'll see if they've really beaten it or not. All it takes is one undiagnosed patient slipping through the cracks and one confirmed new case and the whole city'd shut down again for a month.

Still, when I go outside, EVERYBODY has a mask now although still most are surgical rather than N-95. Walking around you see no one without one so we're all protecting each other in that regard too. It may suck for the rest of the world, but knowing that so many of the test kits and masks and equipment are made here means that China is going to eat first. The localities know what to do, the people know what to do, and the medical professionals and first responders are getting both tons of experience as well as the supplies they need. Although bless them, they could use the time off that I'm getting.

The Chinese government has been patting itself on the back. Apparently If everything goes well, schools may re-open come April or May. Again, Panzhihua has not had a new case in three weeks and all but one of ours were tied to the same family. every time I check in, Sichuan province has been parked on 539 cases for seven days or so, down to 41 active cases province-wide. Next door in Yunnan Province (we're on the Yunnan border), only two active cases in the entire province and they haven't hand any new ones in a long time. Meanwhile, Hubei province though is still festering with 67781 confirmed and 14409 active cases.

I have more time than I know what to do with, I'm catching up on films I should have seen but never did. I watched Sophie's Choice for the first time ever this afternoon. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

12 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

My gut has me feeling like it's pretty much over. I feel like there's no safer place in the world right now than non-Hubei China. Also, I think the official numbers are real and not fake. In part because I've seen the overwhelming response first hand. In part also because the WHO visited Chengdu on their trip to China and talking about the empty hosptial beds and lack of patients to test gave me confindece the Chinese really do have things under control.

The big test is to come. Once schools start re-opening, once factories start up again, and venues start opening.... that's when we'll see if they've really beaten it or not. All it takes is one undiagnosed patient slipping through the cracks and one confirmed new case and the whole city'd shut down again for a month.

Still, when I go outside, EVERYBODY has a mask now although still most are surgical rather than N-95. Walking around you see no one without one so we're all protecting each other in that regard too. It may suck for the rest of the world, but knowing that so many of the test kits and masks and equipment are made here means that China is going to eat first. The localities know what to do, the people know what to do, and the medical professionals and first responders are getting both tons of experience as well as the supplies they need. Although bless them, they could use the time off that I'm getting.

The Chinese government has been patting itself on the back. Aparently If everything goes well, schoold may re-open come April or May. Again, Panzhihua will not have had a new case in three weeks, Sichuan province has been parked on 539 cases for seven days or so, down to 41 active cases province-wide. Next door in Yunnan Province, only two active cases in the entire province and they haven't hand any new ones in a long time. Meanwhile, Hubei province though is still festering with 67781 confirmed and 14409 active cases.

I have more time than I know what to do with, I'm catching up on films I should have seen but never did. I watched Sophie's Choice for the first time ever this afternoon. 

What's next? Ordinary People? 

[Voltaire 5,322]

10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

What's next? Ordinary People? 

Weird Science, Heathers, The Lost Boys, Terms of Endearment, and St. Elmo's Fire.

I went through life hearing "this is a case of Sophie's Choice" but until a few hours ago, I didn't know what was the choice that Sophie faced.

[Cloaca du jour 2,151]

Dont forget the Cusack collection...better off dead...etc...some funny films.

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Weird Science, Heathers, The Lost Boys, Terms of Endearment, and St. Elmo's Fire.

I'm all in on the first two. Weird Science is awesome. Heathers is awesome even though Slater is working hard on his best Jack Nicholson impersonation. At least that was what I remember. Haven't seen the others. 

Sounds like a new thread should be born.

[Voltaire 5,322]

5 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Dont forget the Cusack collection...better off dead...etc...some funny films.

Better Off Dead is a good suggestion, maybe I'll start downloading it now, Terms of Endearment is taking forever. It's at 94% now but it's just been a slog and there's a good chance that Better Off Dead will finish first.

 

[Cloaca du jour 2,151]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Better Off Dead is a good suggestion, maybe I'll start downloading it now, Terms of Endearment is taking forever. It's at 94% now but it's just been a slog and there's a good chance that Better Off Dead will finish first.

 

Theres the boat sailing one...the skiing one..and a few others...

[NorthernVike 2,087]

6 hours ago, MTSkiBum said:

If you read my posts in this thread, many of which have been quoted like the above post, my worries predate the media by about a month. I do not think this is a media issue.

 

We will most likely will be fine, this will not be an issue at an individual level, but at a societal level. My parents in particular are finally ready to retire and were going to buy a home near my house. Do you know how pissed I would be if my life-long fishing buddy died 1 year before his retirement/moving to houston. My dad and I have been planning for a decade about buying an offshore boat, etc.

 

My wife's parents are slightly older at 70. They are at greater risk. They are still young enough to drive across the state 4 times a year to spend a week with their grandkids. My kids love their grandparents and they are still an immense help at that age. They have 5-10 really good years left with their grand kids.

 

I also have 2 grand parents alive. Both still in their house and are not in a nursing home(which will help somewhat), but they are 87 and 90 years old and living independently. This obviously is of extreme concern to them,

There's no guarantees in life kid.  

[Bert 1,128]

8 hours ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

 

 

It is not a hoax, but some people still think it is.

It is not a hoax. It is a fraud.

[Gladiators 1,995]

Buddy of mine who is an ER doc said the he hopes this results in better planning/preparedness for when something serious comes along.  I agree with him on that.

[bostonlager 2,665]

Forest Gump has contracted the chinese AIDS

[Hardcore troubadour 15,518]

57 minutes ago, Bert said:

It is not a hoax. It is a fraud.

It’s a put on

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Nearly 1/2 of Chinese deaths from Covid19 attributed to pre-existing heart ailments. 

[MDC 7,514]

Just now, TimmySmith said:

Nearly 1/2 of Chinese deaths from Covid19 attributed to pre-existing heart ailments. 

That’s a relief. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Just now, MDC said:

That’s a relief. 

It is for people with no history of heart ailments. 

[MTSkiBum 1,623]

Just now, TimmySmith said:

It is for people with no history of heart ailments. 

Nearly half of US adults have heart issues.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190131084238.htm

 

[MDC 7,514]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

It is for people with no history of heart ailments. 

And people who don’t know or come into contact with them. I feel 50% better.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, MTSkiBum said:

Nearly half of US adults have heart issues.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190131084238.htm

Sad, but true. General ill health makes you susceptible to outside factors.  

[fandandy 3,313]

11 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

Nearly half of US adults have heart issues.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190131084238.htm

 

Diabetes makes a person more susceptible as well.  Good luck 'Merica.  

[naomi 356]

The doc Joe Rogan had on thinks obesity will play into rough outcomes here. Lifelong smoking in China did for Chinese men, but obesity they didn't have to deal with for the most part.

There's a video of a 220 lb guy in his 30s getting ECMO treatment (acts as heart and lungs) in China. Something only 8 CA hospitals have.

[fandandy 3,313]

4 minutes ago, naomi said:

The doc Joe Rogan had on thinks obesity will play into rough outcomes here. Lifelong smoking in China did for Chinese men, but obesity they didn't have to deal with for the most part.

There's a video of a 220 lb guy in his 30s getting ECMO treatment (acts as heart and lungs) in China. Something only 8 CA hospitals have.

Heartless I know but this type of purge would be good for the country.  I worry about the elderly but the obese or those with self-induced diabetes, sorry about your luck.  

[jerryskids 6,860]

11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

This makes for a better insight if Chinese food wasn't better in the US than China. I miss all Western food to include Americanized Chinese food.

Americanized Chinese food tastes better because it is Americanized -- they add tons of sugar, MSG, meth, whatever they can to appeal to the fatties here.  My theory is that the more authentic stuff has a little of that, but not as much, so as to appeal to both markets.

Anyway, I'm going back to that same sushi place for lunch today, so I'm probably a dead man walking.  Nice knowing you all. 

[Mungwater 597]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

Americanized Chinese food tastes better because it is Americanized -- they add tons of sugar, MSG, meth, whatever they can to appeal to the fatties here.  My theory is that the more authentic stuff has a little of that, but not as much, so as to appeal to both markets.

Anyway, I'm going back to that same sushi place for lunch today, so I'm probably a dead man walking.  Nice knowing you all. 

Don’t worry jerry, I’ll take care of your family.